Xinerama and Compose, Screen Placement Issues, other small things...

[Rob Smith]

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:46:19 -0700, Brian J. Tarricone
<bjt23 at cornell.edu> wrote:
> On 10/19/04 16:08, Rob Smith wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:42:15 +0200, Olivier Fourdan <fourdan at xfce.org> wrote:
> > > > Also, I've noticed some apps are having screen placement issues, as
> > > > you can see here:
> > > > http://kormoc.homelinux.org:8080/~kormoc/placement.jpg
> > > > The picture window is raised up from the bottom and the titlebar is
> > > > above the screen. It appears to be moved up as high as the task bar
> > > > is, so it might be just a miscalc somewhere? The image in question is
> > > > viewed using kuickshow. It's rather annoying cause I can't move the
> > > > window down or anything.
> > >
> > > Alt+click moves any window.
> >
> > ok , cool, and I assume no one else is having these issues tho?
> 
> i've noticed something similar when VNCing to machines with a larger
> desktop resolution than on the local machine.  it's kinda annoying; it
> would be nice if xfwm4 would avoid placing windows such that their titlebar 
> is off-screen (unless the app requests it, of course).

but it's not a problem, nothing to be fixed cause you can just move
the window with a alt click, so move along, no problem here...

> > sure, but the questions is, can it be done with Xinerama now or not? :)
> um, no.  that's essentially what olivier said.

he just said I could do it on a non xinerama screen, not that it won't
work on a xinerama screen. That's the same as saying, does Konsole run
on xfce? it runs on kde. That's not really what I was asking...
 
> if you had xfce 4.0.x installed to /usr, and then compiled and installed
> 4.1.90 without specifying a prefix, it defaulted to /usr/local, so it's
> likely that you're still running 4.0.x if that's the case.  as olivier
> notes, you're using the default 4.0.x xfwm4 theme, and xfwm4's compositor
> is _not_ enabled in that screenshot, which either means you're running
> 4.0.x, or you didn't enable the compositor at compile-time (it's disabled
> by default (or it is enabled, but X's composite extension is not enabled).

So why give out the 4.0.x theme in the package if you don't want
people to use it?  Here you go,
http://kormoc.homelinux.org:8080/~kormoc/version.jpg
Is that enough proof or do I have to switch how the desktop looks from
how I like it for you guys to trust me that I'm not using the older
version? Also, as said above, I can't use the Composite extention
because I'm using xinerama, so cause I'm using xinerama, as I said
above, and unable to use the composite extention, how am I able to run
the built in composite manager? Yes, it's compiled out, because I *can
not* run it. And I can't even look towards fixing it because as I
asked, it's not just a xfce issue, it's a xorg issue.

> it's just an on-topic issue.  we like to use the xfce4-dev list for
> development-related issues, not helping users fix problems with their
> setup.  also, there are more people subscribed to the xfce list than the
> xfce4-dev list, so more people can benefit from any discussion resulting
> from your user-related question.

Erm, I'm having issues, I'm willing to try to fix them, I would like
to know if anyone else if having any of the same issues, if anyone
else is working on them, or if anyone else here even feels that they
are issues.

You guys ask for developers, I respond with some stuff, and I get
flamed out. I don't even feel like I should bother finishing my patch
to keep windows from being placed above the top of the screen because
that issue is a user related issue and a patch for it is useless
because you can just alt click and move it...

I want to help, I really do, but this isn't really encourging my want
to help, it's pushing away a potentional developer because you feel
that I can't tell the differece between two lists and you feel my
taste in desktop themes is questionable. If that's how it is to be,
well then I just won't bother.

~Rob