Fw: Re: xfdesktop menu question

[Juraj Ziegler]

On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 12:54:37PM +0200, Linus Fagerberg wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Juraj Ziegler" <e at hq.sk>
> To: <xfce4-dev at xfce.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: xfdesktop menu question
> 
> On Mon, 5 May 2003 12:11:28 +0200, Juraj Ziegler wrote:
> > Depends on your startx and associated scripts. As already mentiond, I
> > use Debian, and I have a .xsession-errors file. The standard (or error?
> > i'm not sure right now) output of the X server process is redirected into
> it.
> > And start X through startx as well.
> 
> I'll try to find my error log and I guess it should be possible to redirect
> the output from the shell I run starx from to a file. If I log our directly
> after trying left-clicking the desktop the prevously posted messages are
> displayed.

You could start by looking in your home directory, whether
.xsession-errors exists. And if it does not exist, the output of X is
probably written to the console where you ran startx.

I just took a look at how my desktop menu looks

> DBG[menu.c:360] ??(): Root Element: xfdesktop-menu
> 
> DBG[menu.c:382] ??(): //Desktop Menu (type=3) (term=0)
Title

> DBG[menu.c:382] ??(): //No Name (type=1) (term=0)

Separator

> DBG[menu.c:382] ??(): //Terminal (type=0) (term=0)
> 
> DBG[menu.c:382] ??(): //Run Program... (type=0) (term=0)
> 
> DBG[menu.c:382] ??(): //Settings (type=2) (term=0)
> 
> DBG[menu.c:382] ??(): //Settings/All Settings (type=0) (term=0)
> 
> DBG[menu.c:382] ??(): //Settings/Background (type=0) (term=0)
> 
> DBG[menu.c:382] ??(): //File manager (xffm) (type=0) (term=0)
> 
> DBG[menu.c:382] ??(): //Midnight Commander (type=0) (term=1)

Default xfc4 entries

> DBG[menu.c:382] ??(): //No Name (type=1) (term=0)

Separator

> DBG[menu.c:382] ??(): //Help (type=0) (term=0)

Default entry.

The system-generated menu for applications should appear between the
title and the first separator. But I don't have anymore time to explore
this. It works OK for me, and when it didn't work, it was fault of the
"menu" package not working, not of xfce4.

> > Debian, and I assume other distros as well, uses a package called "menu"
> > to dynamically create menus for various window managers. Each package
> > which wants to have a menu entry includes a file with the definition of
> > this entry. The menu package knows how to convert these definitions into
> > a menu-file, that can be used by specific window managers (i.e. one
> > conversion for WindowMaker, another conversion for xfce4, etc.). If a
> > new package is installed, the menu is regenerated automatically. And
> > most window managers keep an eye on the resulting file, and re-read it
> > if it has changed. This way, your menu (provided by the window manager)
> > is always up-to-date.
> 
> > I hope this was clear enough :)
> 
> Ok, I think I understand it but shouldn't this mean that the root menu would
> be identical in different window managers?

Yes. That't the point of it. That you find e.g. Mozilla under Apps/Net,
whatever window manager you use. And that you don't have to edit the
menu files by hand, everytime you (un)install something.

[e]

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