UI issues and hu_HU translation

[Benedikt Meurer]

On Mon, 16, Jun 2003, SOMOGYI Péter wrote:

> Hello,

Hello Peter,

> > A menu editor for xfdesktop is in work.
> OK, but is there a clean way to localize them in 4.0? Because it
> cripples the localized desktop by introducing "Run program", "Settings",
> "Help" etc. when clicking on the desktop. And some menus on the panel
> get English captions.

See the localization functions in libxfce4util/i18n.h. Its currently
only used by the Info dialog, as we need to discuss where to install
localized files first.

> > Pager is the traditional terminology, so I think its fine. Don't know 
> > why KDE and Gnome use other names.
> As you wish ;-) But I really think freedesktop.org should agree on
> naming guidelines even if it is politicaly hard (just like API and
> protocoll header names -- it doesn't touch implementation, it is only to
> be able to universally recongnize a function or content type).

I have no problem with unified naming conventions, but neither Motif SG,
nor Gnome HIG, nor freedesktop defineds how to name a pager.

> > I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
> I only tried to write that KDE and Gnome uses panel uniformly for trays,
> taskbars, panels and launchers in the sense of bars on the screen which
> might contain window-lists, applets and starting menus/buttons. Panel in
> XFce is the same in this sense, but the taskbar of XFce is also called
> panel in Gnome and KDE. And if the system tray gets on the taskbar in
> XFce, the latter will no longer contain only tasklists (actually windows
> and desktop lists). Though the event notifier is currently related to
> application startup if I gather correctly. So it is a little ambigious.
> I don't know either what to do.

We should probably rename the taskbar to status bar (as its ment to display
status information to the user). Let the others decide.

> What do you mean by toolbar in UI settings?
> I could not figure it out
> where to find the toolbar on which this has an effect.

UI settings are not xfce-only, but are general User Interface settings.

> What do you mean by screen in xfcetaskbar.c 199?
> A desktop or a
> workspace or something else?

A Screen is exactly what it says. An area where data is displayed, typically
a monitor. See the X Window System documentation for more information about
that kind of terminology.

> > The idea of XFce4 is to have the components separated and provide a 
> > modular desktop so I don't see the point of having only one po file. I 
> > don't think Gnome or KDE have a single po for the whole desktop.
> You are right.
>
> peter

Benedikt

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