Xfce-funklor ->xfwm crash

[Olivier Fourdan]

Ric,

Frankly, I see your proposal as a horrible hack :)

Really, I won't maintain a black list of GTK themes hardcoded in the
setting manager...

Cheers,
Olivier.

On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 22:58, Ric wrote:
> --- Olivier Fourdan <fourdan at xfce.org> wrote:
> > Ric,
> > 
> > No, I disagree. The syntax inside the engine changed, and using old
> > themes is causing syntax errors. Now, if that crashes gtk, then the root
> > cause of the crash should be fixed IMO...
> > 
> > I did not find anything wrong in my code, so I don't know what causes
> > the crash.
> 
> Man I can appreciate that!  Maybe there is nothing 'wrong'...
> The thing is that you are correct:  THE solution is to make it so that gtk
> themes won't do that.
> But that may not be possible by XFce as, maybe, it is a GTK+ problem. (?)
> In the interim though, until a real solution is found, not having themes in
> the list that you know are going to cause problems would be a good idea,
> ithink.  The user is going to think "it works in xyz - it must be XFce v4 at
> fault".  It seems a bit unfair but that is always the way it is.
> It begs the question: how many of the themes in the Settings can cause
> problems? Does anyone know?  If not, then only listing themes from the panel
> default install and xfce-gtk-engine might be a really good thing until a
> proper fix is found. (presuming of course that you know those themes are AOK).
> 
> 
> > Cheers,
> > Olivier.
> > 
> > On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 22:26, Ric wrote:
> > > Olivier:
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
> > > However, no end user is going to know that. I didn't know where
> > Xfce-funklor
> > > originated(until now) . It is in the Settings Mangler/UI  list and
> > therefore
> > > should just work.  If there are incompatible themes, they should not be in
> > the
> > > list that is produced by Settings Manager/User Interface, IMHO. Perhaps a
> > > little more control on what gets placed in that list is warranted ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Olivier Fourdan <fourdan at xfce.org> wrote:
> > > > Ric,
> > > > 
> > > > Xfce-funklor is not compatible with latest xfce engine and may crash GTK
> > > > apps.
> > > > 
> > > > Just use the xfce themes that ship with the version of gtk-xfce-engine
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Olivier.
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 21:40, Ric wrote:
> > > > > Hi:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I experienced another problem with Xfce-funklor previously too but it
> > > > seemed
> > > > > to be random and not always repeatable so no report but it just
> > screwed
> > > > the
> > > > > system again with RC1:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was clicking on different User Interface selections to find one that
> > > > might
> > > > > be similar to the Bluex from XFce v3(no luck there) and when I clicked
> > on
> > > > > xfce-funklor I lost all window decorations and mouse buttons.  I had
> > > > clicked
> > > > > on/changed about 10 themes before I got to Xfce-funklor.  Also, I
> > noticed
> > > > that
> > > > > part of gkrellm was showing on that workspace which it should not have
> > > > been. 
> > > > > All the other open X processes might have been there too but were
> > obscured
> > > > by
> > > > > galeon windows. 
> > > > > The only way out of that situation was the three fingered kill of X.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Previously, in Beta 2:
> > > > >  -clicked on theme XFce-funklor and the Settings Manager died and
> > would
> > > > not
> > > > > restart by clicking on panel icon. I checked the running processes and
> > > > (xf)
> > > > > panel, desktop, wm, taskbar (and xscreensaver) were all apparently
> > running
> > > > > normally. That was semi-repeatable.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I do not know if it would have worked but it would have been nice if I
> > > > could
> > > > > have just restarted  xfwm4.  Is there a way to set & do that from the
> > > > > keyboard?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > =====
> > > > > Have A Great Day!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ric
> > > > > ***
> > > > > Thought for today:
> > > > > Do not take yourself too seriously.  Nobody else does. ;)
> > > > > 
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> 
> Ric
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