xfce4-session: some observations (0.0.17)

[Matti Rendahl]

On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 20:46, Benedikt Meurer wrote: 
> On Sun, 06, Jul 2003, Matti Rendahl wrote:
> 
> > I have some observations:
> > 
> > 1) When quiting I think it would be useful to be able not to save
> >    the current setup even if I have choosen "Automatically save 
> >    session on logout" in settings. Couldn't the setting
> >    "Automatically..." just control if the checkbox is checked or
> >    not on the quit dialog? 
> 
> IMHO if I say, "Autosave session", I expect the session to do it, not
> offering another checkbox to confirm what I said previously.

Ok, I totally buy that after checking up on my own behaviour:

realised after testing a few other of my (past) favorite "wm's" that I
usually don't have "Autosave" enabled, and thus usually don't have to
"Cancel->Settings Manager->Session Management->Un-check" and then Quit
again. (I also realised that I usually forget to check the Save, and
then lose the session I would have liked to save. I don't think I have 
configured/terminated as many  X Session as I have done now testing out
xfce4-sm in the last 10 years summed up :-)

>  not offering another checkbox to confirm what I said previously.

Well, it sort of do that even if it is not active. I've been there and
tryed to un-check it more than once when realising that I have messed up
and don't want it saved  :-) 

> > 2) I noticed with evolution 1.4 that if I don't quit evolution
> Thats definetly an evolution bug.

Ok, I verify it with some other sm's and report it.

> Your xmms problem occurs, because xmms is session aware. Therefore
> it'll be restarted by the session manager. You could get around this
> using a simple script to launch xmms:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> export SESSION_MANAGER=""
> xmms
> 
> That'll prevent xmms from connecting to the session manager.

A, well, could do that if I started xmms myself, but it's gkrellm that
does it for me. Don't think I like that anyway, back to start xmms
myself :-) But nice hint for other stuff one doesn't like to have
managed by the sm, even if Autosave is the default!

> Benedikt

--matti