pipewire?
ToddAndMargo
ToddAndMargo at zoho.com
Mon Apr 25 07:16:52 CEST 2022
On 4/24/22 00:10, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 19:36:47 -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>> Fedora 35
>> Xfce 4.16
>> Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-35-1.2.iso
>>
>> Is Xfce using Pulse Audio or Pipe Wire?
>
> Hi,
>
> it depends on your distro, not on the used desktop environment what
> sound server is used by default.
>
> "XFCE4 supports freedesktop system sounds, but it is not configured out
> of the box." - https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/xfce#Sound
>
> However, you probably aren't interested in system sound. I suspect you
> want to know what your distro does use to provide audio for Internet
> browsers, video players etc..
>
> On Linux the backend is always ALSA, nobody does use OSS anymore. I for
> example use either plain ALSA or jackd and never ever touched
> pulseaudio or pipewire. I might use pipewire one day, if it's not
> experimental anymore, but at the moment it is just experimental.
>
> I'm not surprised to read that Fedora 35 seemingly defaults to
> pipewire. In the past Linux distros migrated to pluseaudio when it was
> unfinished and breaking working stuff, they migrated to nouveau and
> dropped the nv driver, while nv was still needed, since that time
> nouveau did not work for almost all NVIDIA based computers.
>
> In a nutshell, after googling my impression is that Fedora 35 defaults
> to pipewire. I don't know if Fedora has got a manual, however, Arch
> Linux has got a Wiki, that more or less helps even when using other
> distros, see https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWire .
>
> https://twitter.com/snowden/status/1460666075033575425
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
> PS: Some apps force to install dependencies that are not necessarily
> needed, IOW those dependencies should be optional. I workaround this by
> installing empty dummy packages. I dislike broken software such as
> pulseaudio that e.g. doesn't work for pro-audio productions and isn't
> needed for my daily deskto audio needs or gvfs that e.g. damages green
> hard disk drives by waking them up right after they parked the heads,
> hence the heads spin down and up again and again, but gvfs doesn't
> provide anything I do need, it's absolutely useless. Remove gvfs
> and the drives work as expected, they spin down when being ideal and
> only spin up again, if the user does access the drive.
>
> I've not used pipewire yet. It's said that it doesn't work for my
> pro-audio needs and for my daily desktop audio plain ALSA works well,
> then there's no need for a sound server at all. Fortunately no software
> does force to install pipewire.
>
> [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ lsb_release -id
> Distributor ID: Arch
> Description: Arch Linux
> [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi pulseaudio pulseaudio-bluetooth gvfs | grep Description
> Description : Dummy package
> Description : Dummy package
> Description : Dummy package
Thank you!
I do believe I am on pipewire and am looking at
its pulse plugin
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