"failed to suspend session"

Kevin Chadwick ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Mar 17 12:48:07 CET 2014

previously on this list Greg Folkert contributed:

> Again, I don't disagree, but really there are much bigger fish to fry
> for most things. If we DO get bogged down in the details, what else will
> there be time to do? 

Fair enough I can understand that especially for a one-time system setup
but I find it actually took far less time with fvwm to write install
scripts and config for multiple systems than xfce (fiddling with
xfconf, etc) and with the added guarantee that nothing will break
(downgrading, dependency issues such as glib and mimecache causing
desktop loading halt (has to be due to rediculously bad gnome coding),
protected single config file). The only possibility of breakage now
being if the unix philosophy is absolutely eroded with time. Which may
happen by default but I expect not at all in it's entirety, I can see
the potential likelihood of dbus CLI being the only interface for some
things and requiring googling to control things but I haven't found it
necessary or beneficial so far (command line tools such as
xfce4-notifyd hiding that, though I decided not to use xfce4-notifyd
either because I didn't see why it was using dbus and had issues such
as notifications not being located correctly and moving down the screen
and not dissapearing).

xfce4 is one of the more reliable desktops and most of the single
install user issues they do have are due to gnome depends but what all
this boils down to is that Unix Desktops are becoming closer and closer
to emulating one of the main reasons aside from security that I decided
never to use Windows in production (Windows 2000 which was much better
than 98), reliability. The great thing being Unix provides choice and
you can work around upstream if it's beneficial to YOU or your
businesses productivity. I still have one xfce desktop that I have lost
all my panel etc. because I haven't had time to locate the particular
issue in it's configuration or save the most important parts.


'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work
together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
universal interface'

(Doug McIlroy)

In Other Words - Don't design like polkit or systemd

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