1. gvfs issue - 2. menu entries issue

killermoehre killermoehre at gmx.net
Fri Mar 22 13:40:18 CET 2013

Am 22.03.2013 11:40, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> Hi :)
> hopefully this list can help me. Please avoid comments such as, "if you
> don't like Linux, go back to Windows". Privately I'm using Linux only
> since 2003 and before I used Linux, I privately used the Atari ST.
> Privately I never used Microsoft or Apple for desktop computers.
> In the last years I noticed more and more ignorance by upstream
> regarding to issues with desktop environments. A lot of things that
> worked in the past, are broken nowadays. There's an endless list of
> things that are broken today, however, I fixed nearly everything that's
> important to me and at the moment I try to fix 2 issues for Xfce, since
> I won't switch the DE again and also want to make Xfce usable for
> friends.
> The first issue isn't an issue for me, but I can't recommend Xfce to
> less experienced users living in Europe.
> I removed gvfs on my Linux installs and I'm comfortable with it, but I'm
> looking for a replacement that can be used with thunar-volman, for
> people who want to be able to mount by GUI, resp. if needed using
> another file browser, than Thunar.
> The issue is described here:
> http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2013-March/004971.html
> http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2013-March/004972.html
> http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2013-March/004973.html
> http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2013-March/004974.html
> http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2013-March/004975.html
> The other issue is important for myself. Since there seems to be no GUI
> such as Alacarte able to customize the menu and many packages that
> make menu entries correctly for other DEs, don't create entries for the
> Xfce menu, I need a howto, that does explain how to customize Xfce's menu.
> http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
> Arch Linux:
> [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ echo $XDG_CONFIG_HOME 
> [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ ls -ld ~/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu
> -rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 614 Feb 28
> 05:11 /home/rocketmouse/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu
> [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ echo $prefix
> [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$
> Ubuntu Quantal:
> spinymouse at q:~$ echo $XDG_CONFIG_HOME
> spinymouse at q:~$ ls -ld ~/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu
> ls: cannot access /home/spinymouse/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu:
> No such file or directory
> spinymouse at q:~$ echo $prefix
> spinymouse at q:~$
> I don't understand what exactly I need to copy from what path to what
> path. Sure, I'm an idiot, but I can't change this, so any hints are
> welcome.
> When KDE 3 became 4 I switched to GNOME 2, when it became 3 I switched
> to Xfce, like many other Linux users did too. Is DE upstream still
> interested in users? 10 years ago Linux missed many good apps, today
> we've got many of those apps that were missed in the past, but our DEs
> are broken, while they were good in the past.
> YMMV ;).
> Regards,
> Ralf

There is no replacement for gvfs. Use it. If you want better hard drive
settings, use hdparm or sdparm.

For easy desktop menu editing use menulibre, available for both arch and
Or use »exo-desktop-item-edit -c ~/.local/share/applications/«.


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