1. gvfs issue - 2. menu entries issue

[Ralf Mardorf]

Hi :)

hopefully this list can help me. Please avoid comments such as, "if you
don't like Linux, go back to Windows". Privately I'm using Linux only
since 2003 and before I used Linux, I privately used the Atari ST.
Privately I never used Microsoft or Apple for desktop computers.

In the last years I noticed more and more ignorance by upstream
regarding to issues with desktop environments. A lot of things that
worked in the past, are broken nowadays. There's an endless list of
things that are broken today, however, I fixed nearly everything that's
important to me and at the moment I try to fix 2 issues for Xfce, since
I won't switch the DE again and also want to make Xfce usable for
friends.

The first issue isn't an issue for me, but I can't recommend Xfce to
less experienced users living in Europe.

I removed gvfs on my Linux installs and I'm comfortable with it, but I'm
looking for a replacement that can be used with thunar-volman, for
people who want to be able to mount by GUI, resp. if needed using
another file browser, than Thunar.

The issue is described here:

http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2013-March/004971.html
http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2013-March/004972.html
http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2013-March/004973.html
http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2013-March/004974.html
http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2013-March/004975.html

The other issue is important for myself. Since there seems to be no GUI
such as Alacarte able to customize the menu and many packages that
make menu entries correctly for other DEs, don't create entries for the
Xfce menu, I need a howto, that does explain how to customize Xfce's menu.

http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu

Arch Linux:


[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ echo $XDG_CONFIG_HOME 

[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ ls -ld ~/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu
-rw-r--r-- 1 rocketmouse rocketmouse 614 Feb 28
05:11 /home/rocketmouse/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ echo $prefix

[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$


Ubuntu Quantal:


spinymouse at q:~$ echo $XDG_CONFIG_HOME

spinymouse at q:~$ ls -ld ~/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu
ls: cannot access /home/spinymouse/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu:
No such file or directory
spinymouse at q:~$ echo $prefix

spinymouse at q:~$


I don't understand what exactly I need to copy from what path to what
path. Sure, I'm an idiot, but I can't change this, so any hints are
welcome.

When KDE 3 became 4 I switched to GNOME 2, when it became 3 I switched
to Xfce, like many other Linux users did too. Is DE upstream still
interested in users? 10 years ago Linux missed many good apps, today
we've got many of those apps that were missed in the past, but our DEs
are broken, while they were good in the past.

YMMV ;).

Regards,
Ralf