Many Updates To Xfce - Will xubuntu 11.10 Update To Them?
dumol at xfce.org
Tue Feb 14 14:22:38 CET 2012
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 14:37, Kevin Chadwick <ma1l1ists at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:32:51 +0200
> Mișu Moldovan wrote:
>>> I would argue that Gentoo is closer to the spirit of BSD.
> If you could, I'd be interested if you could explain why Gentoo is
> closer to BSD than Arch?
> Is it just because FreeBSD encourages building, BSD in general doesn't.
You could be right. My Arch experience was very short and unfortunate
while most of my BSD-related time was spent with FreeBSD. I was also
thinking of the genesis of Gentoo Linux and Portage.
>> Don't want to derail this discussion so I will stop at pointing out
>> that Gentoo also supports binary packages
> Sorry to continue the derailment but I was under the impression that
> Gentoo only provides binary packages for a few large programs like
> office and firefox. Is it possible to run hardened Gentoo without
Of course it is possible, to some extent, especially when you have
lots of similar machines using the same architecture (say amd64). You
compile once and deploy everywhere.
> Making this mail even slighlty xfce related, xfce is great but
> xfces mixer and pulseaudio don't work with the grsecurity kernel patch.
> So I'm using gnome-mixer with Alsa on xfce.
I've quit using gentoo-hardened on a desktop long ago, but it's
refreshing to know that these are the biggest issues when running
Xfce. I wouldn't even count PulseAudio, I rank the -pulseaudio flag
closely after -qt4, -gtk3, -gnome, -bonobo and the likes.
These Gentoo flags make it possible to produce a mostly pure Xfce
desktop in which there is no trace of gconf and friends. On my desktop
some packages like gvfs and gnome-disk-utility have crept in over the
years but at least I don't have two settings daemons running at the
same time (xfconf and gconf). That's not easily attainable in Debian
and I'm inclined to think the same of Arch.
So, it seems a distro-war was unavoidable! :)
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