Many Updates To Xfce - Will xubuntu 11.10 Update To Them?

Genghis Khan genghiskhan at
Tue Feb 14 13:43:25 CET 2012

On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:40:17 +0100
Maximilien Noal <noal.maximilien at> wrote:

> On 02/14/2012 10:32 AM, Mișu Moldovan wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:57, Gour<gour at>  wrote:
> >> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:17:10 +0200
> >> Mișu Moldovan<dumol at>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I would argue that Gentoo is closer to the spirit of BSD.
> >>
> >> I used Gentoo for>5yrs befor moving to Arch and still believe that
> >> Arch is closer to FreeBSD starting from init scripts to having
> >> support for *both* binary and source packages and to me it is kind
> >> of 'sweet spot' between Gentoo and Ubuntu in a sense that for the
> >> most part of the system there are binary packages (I never really
> >> felt that my Gentoo system was much quicker for the price of
> >> compiling everything) and it is still very easy (PKGBUILDs are
> >> even simpler than portage scripts) to build from the source.
> >
> > Don't want to derail this discussion so I will stop at pointing out
> > that Gentoo also supports binary packages and it doesn't force you
> > to upgrade to the latest and greatest as Arch does AFAICT. I am not
> > a fan of compiling the office suites or the big browsers and I enjoy
> > downgrading a package now and then or even abstain from upgrading,
> > sometimes for years.
> >
> There is/will be the Arch Rollback Machine (the AUR also can be a way
> to downgrade), and if you use your own PKGBUILDs they will not be
> replaced.
> One thing Gentoo's custom packages have that Arch PKGBUILDs have not
> is the capacity to use 'emerge' to disable a feature easily. At least 
> that's what I've been told from a Gentoo user.
> I will stop here too.
This is a polite and an interesting debate.
Thank you for it, it is very delighting to read it :-)

I am adding two links for the record.
I believe you might want to read about these.

ZENBUILD (Zenwalk)

Both are similar to PKGBUILD of ArchLinux and both are used with
GNU/Linux distributions that are based on Slackware Linux.

Thank you for a productive discussion.

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