Where are the goals of XFCE.

Kok, Auke sofar at foo-projects.org
Wed Jul 16 23:42:12 CEST 2008

Diego Jacobi wrote:
> 2008/7/13 Ambrose Li <ambrose.li at gmail.com>:
>> 2008/7/13 Benedikt Meurer <benedikt.meurer at unix-ag.uni-siegen.de>:
>>> All this "lightweight desktop" stuff is pretty stupid anyways. In case
>>> you didn't notice, it's 2008, and you will have a hard time buying a new
>>> machine with less than 512MiB of RAM. Performance isn't an issue either
>>> with todays CPU processing power. Instead, it'd be nice if people would
>>> start to improve the user experience by - for example - reducing the
>>> latency of the desktop (i.e. make clever use of XCB instead of Xlib to
>>> avoid blocking on round trips to the Xserver) or making the Gnome people
>>> actually accept Glib patches to reduce unnecessary overhead in the
>>> object and signal handling. Wrt. latency there's also a lot of stuff
>>> that could be improved in the kernel.
>> I hope I'm not intruding into the discussion, but talking lightweight is
>> still not stupid. We have some old computers from where I work (this
>> is a non-profit and it's very hard to get new computers even with all
>> the talk about replacing the old equipment) that we will no longer
>> upgrade because it is already too slow to run the old software, let
>> alone the new. Lightweight certainly still is useful and will still be
>> useful in the next few years.
> I agree. Lightweight is important. The fact that computer hardware evolve in
> the first world (USA,europe,Japan,etc.) isnt a reason to start wasting
> resources.
> In my country, the government, schools and universities have always very old
> computers mainly with windows 98, ME or XP, and when they magically apply
> resources to update, then buy 2 years old hardware because it is cheaper and
> runs XP. And i think that they wont use linux if they have to buy ultimate
> hardware. That was the nice thing about xfce, that is was "the complete
> lightweight desktop" and the best option to move those administrative
> computers to linux.
> Also in my studies very little students have new hardware. Most still having
> MMX and some celerons of less than 500 Mhz. They have no money to buy new
> hardware and they have to use windows because all popular distributions
> comes with gnome or some with xfce. And those distros for really low-end
> machines comes with sucking desktops like icewm.
> Also lightweight is better for the energy crisis which all countries are
> having.

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