question re: xfdesktop 4.4.1

[Brian J. Tarricone]

On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:27:33 -0400 Jason Keltz wrote:

>On 05/16/07 12:51, Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:43:06 -0400 Jason Keltz wrote:
>> 
>>> If I want to be able to display file/launcher icons on the desktop,
>>> is dbus required?  Is dbus required for anything else in xfce?
>>> Exactly what dbus components do I need to compile?
>> 
>> D-Bus is required, yes.  You need dbus and dbus-glib.  (Pre 0.90-ish
>> versions of dbus had both in the same package.)  I don't think
>> anything else in Xfce *requires* D-Bus, but Thunar, Terminal, the
>> Verve plugin, and probably other stuff can make use of it if it's
>> there.
>
>Does dbus require one daemon per machine, and then another daemon for 
>every user?
>If you are not running dbus as a daemon, but the files are available
>to users, can they still take advantage of dbus (by starting their
>own?) (I have concerns about dbus security since I don't know that
>much about it, and also don't really want to run dbus as a daemon on
>every machine at startup when only a portion of the users will use
>xfce and hence require dbus..)

For this functionality, just the per-user session bus daemon is fine.
It should work without the system daemon.

>>> Since the "Desktop Preferences" is supposed to list "minimized 
>>> applications" OR "file/launcher icons", what happens if you choose 
>>> file/launcher icons and then minimize an application?
>> 
>> The application gets minimised.  It just isn't shown on the desktop.
>> If you want to know about them, you'll need to use a taskbar,
>> iconbox, or the desktop's middle-click window menu.
>
>Just out of curiosity, why can't you have the best of both worlds?

Complexity (non-trivial to code), user confusion (how do you distinguish
between types of icons), etc.

	-brian