Focus bug or feature?

[Xavier Otazu]

	Hi!

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:04:24 +0000 (UTC)
xfce-request at xfce.org wrote:

> Xavier,
> 
> Please try this version first:
> 
> http://www.xfce.org/~olivier/preview/xfwm4-4.2.CVS20050210.tar.gz
> 

	I will try. Following, I answer your questions using my actual 4.2 xfce.

> 
> - Do you use "click to focus" or "focus follow mouse"?

	Focus follow mouse.

> - Do you have "focus newly created windows" enabled?

	No

> - Do you have "raise on focus" enabled? If so, did you set a high or low
> timeout?

	No

> - Do you have "raise on click" enabled?

	Yes.


> 
> It's a bit odd, I'm using NEdit myself and I don't see these problems.
> The Ctrl+S issue reminds me of an old bug in NEdit when dealing with
> modifiers such as Caps-Lock, Num-Lock or even Scroll-Lock. Make sure you
> have all modifiers disabled on your keyboard.

	I do not have activated this modifiers. The problem I reported was
random, i.e. sometimes appear, sometimes not. My nedit is compiled against
lesstiff 0.93.94

	If you also use Nedit, I would like to ask you a question. If I activate
composer X.org extension (using either 6.8.1 or yesterday 6.8.2) I have problems
when scrolling text in nedit. If I go to lower text lines it works ok, but if I
go to higher lines, text becomes unreadable. Do you have also this problem? I
tried with other editors (gedit, kedit) but this problem does not appear. This
is the only reason I do not use composer extensions ... I love too much
'nedit' ... ;-)


> 
> The window manager will try to focus the window that is decorated (the
> "note" window is not, so it will left out). And once focused, in focus
> follow mouse, it will raise the window automatically. I don't know what
> focus model you use, but that could be what you see here.

	Explained above.

> 
> That used to be my plan, but I'm not too sure now. The more I think of
> it, the more I believe it's better to keep sane defaults for such
> settings.

	Of course, it's your decision. But as a user, I think it would be very useful
to move/raise/lower windows using user-defined mouse shorcuts (not only
with developer defined options). In fact, I know persons with physical
disabilities who loves these kind of user configurabilities. One of the
powerful reasons of Linux is its configurability and adaptability to user
needs... ;-)


cheers

Xavier