How do I cycle with Alt-Tab over all workspaces ? (and some remarks about "hidden features")

[Thomas]

thanks for your answers,
it seems that I worked too long with xfce3 ;-)
When I work with my keyboard only (coding etc, text processing) 
I often switch between application windows on different desktops (workspaces) cause I don't
have a 30" flat screen ;-). This is very efficient and comfortable for me and xfce3 makes this possible.

One thing I'm missing in the documentation and I think this is important:
A list of all functions due to xfwm4rc and eg. keythemerc 
(and of course other user related customizations).

So, I'm glad to get answers here and this is a hidden customization (cycle_minimum=true)
but I want a complete list of all this functions 
(for xfce3 I could some functions get from xfwm-docs based on fvwm).
This list avoids asking similiar question. The user documentation is not going to this level and
it has maybe reasons for the normal user/beginner. I also understand the faq written point of view why
some things changed with xfce4. But in xfce3 there were more possibities to customize the 
behaviour to that what I like (decorations hide eg.). One example is gaim or xawtv for me. 
I don't want them into my taskbar (skipping) and decorations for these apps. Is the only
way to wait if ever this would be available by the application itself. I really miss
changing things by myself. I'm loving xfce3 for this flexibility and now I'm really narrowed
by xfce4 in my working. I had to adapt to xfce4 behaviour and not vice versa.
KDE also is an example for this and additionally eating my resources 
- so I will never change back from xfce but using some gnome and kde apps.

There is much to talk about - maybe someone agree with me and the freedom
I have with xfce3. With xfce3 I got this by editing xfwmrc and informations belonging
to all functions also were hard to get. With xfce4 this starts from the beginning.
There are some customizations possible if you know how. So searching the net and
mailing list was the new beginning for me to get detailed informations 
(I'm not involved in the development and so I had to spend much time with searching).

In my opinion this is a lack of the documentation but maybe intended to not be wanted
(the user should not edit some customization files by "hacking" them with a texteditor 
but use the preferences frontend of xfce).

This also could be a problem if developers don't see this for a problem because they
know what is possible and writing it down to the docs consumpts time. 
For me mainly as user I need more informations on this especially for the xfce functions
to bind them to keys.
I'm curious about getting some ansers for my point of view.

Thomas

PS: are the xfce specific described functions in the keythemerc example (default) complete or not ?

On Tuesday 16 March 2004 11:40, Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
> Jack Kern wrote:
> > Regarding including the panel:  ALT-TAB should do so by default unless
> > the system xfwm4rc or your $HOME/.xfce4/xfwm4rc has declared
> > "cycle_minimum=true".
> >
> > $ cat .xfce4/xfwm4rc
> > # edit this file and then do a " kill -HUP `pidof xfwm4` "
> > # Alt-Tab shows max or min windows, e.g., min conceals panel
> > cycle_minimum=true
>
> hey, look at that, a hidden pref that i totally forgot about!
> /me eats his words
>
>     -brian
>
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