Features wishlist for xfce 4.1

[Jasper Huijsmans]

Ok, let me try to explain what offended me in your mail.

Here I am, spending hours and hours of free time on a project, which, I 
admit gives me great satisfaction, so I'm not complaining.

Then, one day comes along a person, who I've never met before, who has 
never before shown any interest in the project, let alone be involved in 
it, who tells me it's my 'moral obligation' (!!!) to do what he says ...

So, yes, that pissed me off, and I know I wasn't alone in that. There 
are many other things in your mail that have the same tone of demanding 
other people to do what you want, but I won't repeat them here.

I don't think asking for features is stupid, in fact all suggestions are 
very much appreciated. I do however think that writing a mail 
complaining how free software developers somehow have any obligation 
towards you is stupid when you want these same developers to take your 
request seriously.

You say you didn't mean to offend anyone. I'll take your word for it and 
forget all this. But please think about what I said if you want to write 
another rant about how free software should be developed.

	Jasper


Xan wrote:
> Dimecres 02 Juny 2004 22:19, en/na Jasper Huijsmans (<Jasper Huijsmans 
> <jasper at xfce.org>>) va escriure:
> 
> 
>>Xan wrote:
>>...
>>
>>
>>>I don't know why the open source projects in general ignore the majorty
>>>of feature request. I think that the team of the project have the (moral)
>>>responsability to make that their software are the best as possible, even
>>>more if anyone (a user) say that it could be more good if it has this
>>>feature.
>>
>>Please reread above (and the rest of your mail) and think about why that
>>is about the stupidest thing you can say if you ever want your requests
>>to be taken seriously. Just a friendly warning.
>>
>>Some things that make a request more likely to succeed:
>>
>>1) A good reason, i.e. a use case, not "I like it better" (although that
>>still can work if we agree).
>>
>>2) A patch ;-) No guarantees, but it helps.
>>
>>3) Being polite. Doesn't hurt, anyway.
>>
>>
>>	Jasper
> 
> 
> Sorry if I offend you. This was not my intention. I speak with the best 
> intention. Not with hurt intention. My sorries if I hurt you.
> 
> For the other hand, I speak in general. I did not refer to xfce4 project else 
> to open souce projects in general. I want that this were clear.
> 
> And related to topic, I only said that (sorry if I can't express as I want) 
> the team of project have to treat the enhancement of the application in a 
> more important way. Open source community tends to think that a bug is a very 
> important thing and an enhancement isn't.
> 
> I'm in agree that the bugs (specially security bugs) are very important 
> things. But the enhancements are very important too.
> 
> For the final user (tipically desktop user) could be so important an 
> enhancement than a bug. But the open source community thinks different.
> 
> If we not provide a periodic new enhanced versions, where is the innovation of 
> applications?. And if we only provide the geek enhancements in release, where 
> is the user's requests?. I view this as a person who makes a house. 
> Obviously, that person has to build the house for it doesn't felt (the house 
> has to be consistent, robust), but has to ear the people who will live in and 
> has to build it as people want.
> 
> Do you know what I want to say?
> I'm very sad if you think that it's a stupid thing.
> 

> 
> Xan.