On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 13:28, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > I'm trying to learn a bit of programming > in my SPARE time (as if I've got heaps) Just for the record, xfce4 is made by volunteers who are all working in their spare time :) Cheers, -- Olivier Fourdan - fourdan at xfce.org Interoperability is the keyword, uniformity is a dead end. http://www.xfce.org