Things are cobbled together here from a variety of sources.Didnt I used to see your posts on the Mandrake lists? I would like to make my own themes. gtk theme: xfce-smoothe xfwm theme: tabs background: xfce-transparent.png -- Linux 2.4.21 19:24:08 up 15:00, 1 user, load average: 1.09, 1.18, 1.08 http://lazyalfalfa.us/