Starting XFce4 without kdm or gdm

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For your requirements:
VL 4.0 come with polished XDM (use XDM menu).
There is an article about polishing xdm on their www.vectorlinux.com/forum
VL 4.0 standard use XFCE3, but they provide XFCE4 on the online repository.
I have compiled XFCE4 without problem, use --prefix=/usr/X11
VL 4.0 SOHO (under development) will use XFCE-4.


>From: "Paul M. Bucalo" <pmbuc at pmbenterprises.com>
>Reply-To: xfce list <xfce at xfce.org>
>To: "masinick at yahoo.com, xfce list" <xfce at xfce.org>
>Subject: Re: Starting XFce4 without kdm or gdm
>Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 15:24:28 -0500
>
>On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:21:20 -0500, Brian Masinick graced me with:
> > Paul M. Bucalo wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Up until this point I have either used kdm or gdm to login to
> >> XFce-4, depending on whether I'm using Mandrake or Red Hat. Is
> >> there any other Desktop Manager I could use that's lighter, but
> >> would still allow for a user/password login?
> >>
> >> Appreciate any advise and experiences. I really want to trim the
> >> memory usage down to the bare minimum in getting XFce-4 up and
> >> running.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> > Paul, I don't know what you consider to be high overhead, but on my
> > Libranet Debian system, I use gdm with either XFCE 3 or 4 probably
> > 90% of the time (or more) and I don't consider the overhead too
> > great.
>
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>
> > Incidentally, Libranet is a great way to get into a Debian system.
> > If you find Debian to be too intimidating to install, try Libranet.
> > Version 2.7 is free, the current 2.8.1 version can either be
> > downloaded or purchased on CD from the Libranet Web site.
>
>What does Libranet do, make the previous version free?
>
> > Two
> > other great ways to get into Debian software are to try Live CD
> > implementations.
>
>I think I have 8.1 Live Eval, but I never loaded it because I saw
>quite a few posts elsewhere advising that it's too buggy. I thought I
>downloaded the 8.2 Live Eval, but don't see it laying around in CD
>format. I'll have to look again.
>
> > Since you're tight on resources, one of them, the
> > highly regarded Knoppix, might not be the best choice for you,
>
>I really, really like KNOPPIX, but the last version I used was 3.2 and
>it didn't have any option (that I could see) to install completely
>onto a system. I don't want to just run it off the CD. Has anyone
>successfully installed KNOPPIX onto a hard drive as a self-booting
>distro without having to do a lot of manual implementation? What I
>think is awesomely impressive is KNOPPIX's wizards. The developer does
>an excellent job in making a read-only ROM setup a system with minimal
>hands-on. Truly impressive. And when I have had to manually add c-l
>options, they worked well.
>
> > but
> > I've had great results with a similar Live CD, the Mepis
> > distribution.  Mepis can run directly from CD or you can load it on
> > CD, then run a procedure to write the software directly to disk, a
> > really easy way to install it.
>
>Never heard of Mepis. I'll do some research on it.
>
> > LindowsOS is really fast to install, too, if you want a more
> > consumer oriented system,
>
>I have version 4.0, but I never installed it. I think that might be
>too close to what I am trying to run from. :0)
>
> > and Xandros is really easy if you're more
> > interested in a stable system that has good interoperability with
> > Windows software.
>
>Last I knew, it wasn't free. I have a *real* problem paying for
>something before I figure out whether it works or suits my needs.
>Certainly one reason I am trying to migrate to Linux. ;0)
>
> > Libranet, Knoppix, Mepis, LindowsOS, and Xandros
> > are all based on the extremely solid Debian GNU/Linux packaging
> > method.  Personally, I base the bulk of my work on a system I have
> > customized myself from an older Libranet release.
>
>Really good to know. Thanks...
>
> > It works great with XFCE, I've used it for over a year with XFCE 3
> > and now I also use it with XFCE 4.
>
>And that's really the whole point in fueling this thread further. I
>want to be able to use XFce! :0)
>
>To everyone else that has written to me personally with suggestions,
>as well as here, thanks! I have been rebuilding systems within my
>operation and I won't have access to that old email for days yet to
>come. I will consider all the references made and reply as soon as I
>have access to those emails again.
>
>Paul
>
>
>
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