Two problems

[Robert Brimhall]

I'm just catching up on this topic... but I installed my own compiled
rpms of beta 2 yesterday and have had no problems with windows and
mozilla. Still using the stock Red Hat 9 Moz (though I don't use it very
often... I prefer Mozilla Firebird or Galeon)... I have no KDE Libs on
my Red Hat though... since I don't like KDE I uninstalled them. I'll
keep my eyes open for problems to see if it's a Red Hat thing. Though it
sounds like a KDE problem to me (one of the reasons I always preferred
GNOME- both are buggy but KDE seemed over the top buggy)... and then
there was XFce4... :)



On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 07:01, Olivier Fourdan wrote:
> Par,
> 
> Ok, that's big news. Why ? Because it's not xfwm4 that's dying. That was
> my main fear.
> 
> So, I guess we have to dig elsewhere. And frankly, I don't see why xfwm4
> would kill suddenly KDE apps.
> 
> As for Mozilla, you'd better get a binary from Mozilla.org, the one that
> ship with Red Hat is buggy and unstable.
> 
> Cheers,
> Olivier.
> 
> On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 13:04, Pär Ekholm wrote:
> > lördag 28 juni 2003 09:13 skrev Olivier Fourdan:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Mozilla dying is *not* related to xfce... I can make it die in a few
> > > seconds on a stock Red Hat 9, whatever desktop envt I use (GNOME 2.2 or
> > > KDE 3.1)
> > >
> > > As it seems, I've never find Mozilla that ships with Red Hat stable. If
> > > I get Mozilla from Mozilla website, or if I compile it myself, it's very
> > > stable. When I use the one that comes with Red Hat (all versions I
> > > tried, 7.2, 8.0 and 9), Mozilla is *very* unstable. Go figure.
> > >
> > > What I'm trying to figure is exactly what is really related to xfce4.
> > > When you say "the windows suddenly disappear on the screen" can you run
> > > other apps, what happen if you press, let's say "Alt+F2", can you switch
> > > desktops ? Do the window are still decorated ? Can you click on the
> > > desktop and see the menu ?
> > 
> > Yes, the weird thing is that when the windows dies you can start them up again 
> > and it is like before. It´s like, to speek a little metaphorical, that the 
> > windowmanager can´t "hold" them up and they close down. But i have done like 
> > you said deinstalled all libxfcegui4-libs and reinstalled them. I´m going to 
> > test a little today. And maybe with the libs you sent yesterday. Maybe it´s 
> > not a xfce4 thing. Maybe unstable KDE apps. But they have no problem when run 
> > in KDE.
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Olivier.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 20:59, Pär Ekholm wrote:
> > > > fredag 27 juni 2003 19:49 skrev Olivier Fourdan:
> > > > > Pär,
> > > > >
> > > > > First of all, get rid af all versions of libxfcegui4 previously
> > > > > installed and reinstall.
> > > > >
> > > > > rm /usr/lib/libxfcegui4*
> > > >
> > > > Hi again!
> > > > But the problem is that prior to the install of the beta1 rpms on my rh9
> > > > system i don´t have ANY xfce4-libraries on the system. So that can´t be
> > > > the problem. It was so on the beta1-system too (the dying of windows i
> > > > mean).
> > > >
> > > > > (or /usr/local/lib/libxfcegui4*, depending on where you actually
> > > > > installed the libs)
> > > > >
> > > > > I've done some testing, kinf of heavy brute force testing (you run as
> > > > > many apps as possible, killing them after a few seconds) - These kind
> > > > > of tests stress the window manager a lot, and usually shows problems
> > > > > fairly quickly.
> > > > >
> > > > > xfwm4 pass them all. This is not the case with plenty of well known
> > > > > window managers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Amazingly, KDE apps died all at once because of DCOpserver dying fairly
> > > > > quickly...
> > > >
> > > > Yes it happens often with KDE apps. But in my case also with mozilla.
> > > > The list replies about "funky" hardware i must make objections to. My
> > > > hardware is a athlon thunderbird 1200 Mhz with a regular harddrive (not
> > > > raid). Nvidia TNT2 graphics board. System: Redhat 9, xfree86-4.3.0-2
> > > > (RH9), gtk+-1.2.10-25, gtk2-2.2.1-4 (rpms from the kde-redhat-project).
> > > > All other rpms are stock redhat 9 rpms.
> > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Olivier.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > P. Ekholm
> > > >
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Thank You.
Robert Brimhall <rbrimhal at bellsouth.net>