On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Joost Kremers wrote: > utempter-0.5.2-i486-2.tgz in series l. I had not known of this tool before. But, I installed the package and all's well with xfce. Many thanks, Joost! Rich -- Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) <http://www.appl-ecosys.com>