[Xfce-i18n] [de][Patch] xfce4-web-browser mistranslation

[Enrico Tröger]

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:17:33 +0200, Christian Dywan
<christian at twotoasts.de> wrote:

> Am Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:23:24 +0200
> schrieb Enrico Tröger <enrico.troeger at uvena.de>:
> 
> > On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:40:36 +0200, Enrico Tröger
> > <enrico.troeger at uvena.de> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:39:32 +0200, Christian Dywan
> > > <christian at twotoasts.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > > there's a mistranslation that has bugged me for quite some time
> > > > now and I always forgot to report it. The string
> > > > 
> > > > #: ../modules/menu/menu-data/xfce4-web-browser.desktop.in.h:2
> > > > msgid "Web Browser"
> > > > msgstr "Mozilla (Web-Browser)"
> > > > 
> > > > should not refer to Mozilla here. Instead the term should be
> > > > translated and Mozilla should not be mentioned at all. If you
> > > > dislike translating the term, I will accept that as long the
> > > > application name is gone.
> > > 
> > > I completely agree to remove 'Mozilla' from the translation as
> > > there was never a direct relation between Mozilla and a web
> > > browser (and because now we have a much better one :D ). But I
> > > don't think we need to change the translation 'Web-Browser'. Yes,
> > > it isn't a German word but there is also no German word which
> > > could describe it in a sane way. So, I'd suggest to remove
> > > Mozilla and keep 'Web-Browser'.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > #: ../modules/menu/menu-data/xfce4-terminal.desktop.in.h:1
> > > > msgid "Terminal"
> > > > msgstr "Terminal"
> > > > 
> > > > That one irritates me a bit - before looking into the file I
> > > > thought it was referring to the program "Terminal", but it's a
> > > > preference, so it should say "Konsole", shouldn't it?
> > > 
> > > I don't think so, 'Konsole' would be even worse as it reminds more
> > > to KDE's konsole. I'd say 'Terminal' is fine as it is the name of
> > > the general application type 'terminal emulation' and it fits the
> > > name of Xfce's default terminal emultion application 'Terminal'.
> > > So, I'd say changing it would cause even more confusion.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I hope it's okay to leave editing the file to whoever can do it,
> > > > since it's quite a minimal thing. If not, I can make a patch.
> > > 
> > > Attached is a patch which fixes the 'Mozilla' problem as mentioned
> > > above and also translates the missing fuzzy and untranslated
> > > strings. The patch also fixes some missing menu accelerators.
> > 
> > 
> > *ping*
> 
> Oops, forgot to actually reply. Thanks for the reminder.
> 
> > msgid "Web Browser"
> > -msgstr "Mozilla (Web-Browser)"
> > +msgstr "Web-Browser"
> 
> Like I said initially, I would personally translate it. For instance
> with 'Netznavigator', but I leave it up to you.

To be honest, I hate 'Netznavigator'. Its meaning is so far away from
what Web-Browser means. Of course, if you translate it literally it
might fit but it is still not good.
I'd like to keep it 'Web-Browser'.


> > #: ../modules/menu/menu-data/xfce4-terminal.desktop.in.h:1
> > msgid "Terminal"
> > msgstr "Terminal"
> 
> > > I don't think so, 'Konsole' would be even worse as it reminds more
> > > to KDE's konsole. I'd say 'Terminal' is fine as it is the name of
> > the general application type 'terminal emulation' and it fits the
> > > name of Xfce's default terminal emultion application 'Terminal'.
> > > So, I'd say changing it would cause even more confusion.
> 
> Incidentally I've had access to a mac last week and tried to find a
> command line - it turned out it had a "Terminal" and a "Konsole", one
> of them was actually a log file viewer.
> 
> I don't use KDE but I see the problem with "konsole". What about
> "Kommandozeile"? That would not conflict with any application name as
> far as I can say and it's just as common as "Konsole".

I can live with "Kommandozeile" even I still don't understand why
always everything has to be translated. Sometimes the English terms are
just better, more unique and easier to understand.


> > msgid "Cannot create backdrop list \"%s\""
> > -msgstr "Liste mit Hintergrundbildern erstellen"
> > +msgstr "Kann Datei »%s« für die Liste von Hintergrundbildern nicht
> > erstellen"
> 
> I would tend to write "Liste der Hintergrundbilder" here as you did in
> other places as well, but no strong opinion.

Er, yes of course and then it is actually German and not only an
iteration of German words :).


Attached is a complete new patch including the above mentioned changes.
And for the interested there is also an interdiff of both patches.

Regards,
Enrico

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