[Thunar-dev] Unification of Treeview and Sidepanel
Brian J. Tarricone
bjt23 at cornell.edu
Fri May 13 19:48:36 CEST 2005
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Jeff Franks wrote:
> Brian wrote:
>> I can start porting the python interface to C and connecting some
>> empty callbacks to the buttons and such.
Agreed with Jasper and Danny that this may not be the best use of your
time. I don't even want to be tempted to complicate or obfuscate the
backend just to make it easier to connect it to a frontend that wasn't
designed for a particular backend.
>> The only reason I can see for using gtk 2.6 is that there are one
>> or two more stock icons. (Help dialog comes to mind. I believe
>> that mousepad has a preprocessor command that checks the gtk
Stock icons are trivial to conditionally add. Xfmedia already does
this for the GTK_STOCK_MEDIA_* icons if compiled against gtk 2.4.
Easy cut-and-paste job, maybe 5-7 minutes of work.
> There are several other reasons. By the time Xfce 4.4 is released
> most distributions will distribute GTK 2.6 which has a lot of
> improvements over GTK 2.4.
Most *new versions* of distributions. Xfce is *not* bleeding-edge,
nor is it supposed to be even close to it. We should at least make an
effort to be compatible with some not-so-up-to-date distros. I
believe we've already discussed this to death on xfce4-dev.
> For example,
> 1) GtkCellRenderText, GtkLabel, GtkProgressBar and PangoLayout
> support for ellipsized text.
Useful, but not necessary, and libexo can do all this.
> 2) GtkLabel support rotated text
I can't think of where this would be useful (or rather, necessary) in
a file manager. At least not a basic file manager.
> 3) GtkAboutDialog vs XfceAboutDialog
We'll continue to use XfceAboutDialog, since it's distinctively Xfce-ish.
> 4) GLib's GOption API for user defined commandline option parsing.
This is a shame not to have, but we can either backport it into libexo
(not that hard), or just use GNU getopt (and include it for systems
that don't have it).
> 5) GdkPixbuf support image rotation
> 6) GtkMenuToolButton vs XfceMenuButton
So? We already have a replacement for it, so we might as well use it.
> 7) GtkFileChooserButton
Trivial to backport, though I'm not sure I see a need for this really
often in a file manager.
> 8) GtkCellRendererCombo
> 9) An improved GtkFileChooser widget
Huh? People that have 2.6 will benefit from it, people with 2.4
won't. No big deal.
> 10) GtkListStore and GtkUIManager performance improvements making
> widgets like GtkIconView perform better.
> Is there any real reason not to use GTK+ 2.6 as the minimum
> requirement for Xfce 4.4.
See my original point.
> May be then a few widgets could be deprecated in favour of the new
> GTK ones (e.g. GtkMenuToolButton, GtkAboutDialog).
I don't really see the need...
I think the bottom line here is that I still haven't seen a compelling
need for gtk 2.6 for Thunar.
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