[Thunar-dev] Help needed? -> next steps

[Olivier Fourdan]

Benny

On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 21:22 +0200, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> My feeling was (and still is) that the latest happenings on thunar-dev 
> were/are no longer in-line with the initial goals: More and more 
> features were requested, nobody seemed to have any interested in 
> development, instead names were discussed extensively or sentences like 
> "let's start by translating Python to C" came up, etc.; all this is not 
> in-line with Thunar's goals.

I agree.

> Somehow Thunar was hyped too much already. People who know me are aware 
> that I don't give a damn for hypes. Hypes are for the masses. I prefer 
> quality.

I hardly see how one could disagree with that.

> Since nobody knows what Xfce's goals are exactly (and no, lightweight is 
> not really a useful goal here, as it's more of a result of good design, 
> and thereby the result of reaching a goal, rather than a goal of it's 
> own), it's hard to tell whether Xfce's goals are in-line with Thunar's 
> goals (one of the things about Xfce, that are very frustating for me).

Well sorry for your frustrations, but that's all I have to offer. The
real goal of Xfce for me? the same as those I had when I started the
project in 1996, build a desktop I like, have fun working of stuff I
like after spending my all day at work working on things I don't like,
share things with other fellow developers, etc. That's not very sexy, I
agree...

> So, Thunar's goals are clear. If Xfce's goals don't fit, we'll have two 
> different projects, as I won't spend any spare time on just another file 
> manager.

Maybe the problem comes from your vision  regarding Xfce: Xfce is not a
commercial product, world domination is not one of the goals of Xfce. I
have nothing to offer for all the spare time you've spent on Xfce.

So please let me try to rephrase: If you have fun working on Thunar and
want to contribute that to Xfce, that's great, I'm very happy. If you
loose interest in all this, have better things to do, that's also fine
with me, just let me know. I won't tell you you're wrong, it's your
choice.

> PS: I dunno about you, but I for myself have a real-life, that sometimes 
> requires me to spend one or two months on a project, with little to no 
> spare time (atleast no spare time to waste for endless debates).

That's perfectly ok, of course, I don't mean to speak in place of Brian,
but I think his point was rather that you left without notice... 

Peace,
Olivier.