<div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 12 Aug 2026, 9:40 am Yves-Alexis Perez, <<a href="mailto:corsac@debian.org">corsac@debian.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Again we're not there yet but I have no idea about the roadmaps for xfwm4 and<br>
more generally the non-Wayland Xfce status, and don't really know the roadmap<br>
for Xorg in Debian either.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think the future of Xfce is quite secure. The overlap between X11-diehards and Xfce users is extensive, so the X11 side shouldn't be hurting for maintenance. The only way I see X11 support going away even long-term would be if the next time there's some sort of major toolkit change the X fans choose to fork rather than support the mainline.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There are quite a few X fans on Debian and downstreams too, so I hope Debian will recognize that and keep at least one of the now several competing X servers packaged; however this remains to be seen as I would have said the same about 32-bit kernel fans.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Even if Wayland were to become mandatory for mainline Xfce without the LLVM situation improving, Xfce already runs fairly decently on labwc and other compositors that might be easier to port.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In the meantime, when xfwl4 is mature, having and official full Wayland session should bring back some users who have gotten hooked on features currently found only in Wayland, and it should help Xfce when some people's login managers start dropping the ability to run X11 sessions.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards, </div><div dir="auto">Timothy</div><div dir="auto">Xfce user and themer</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
</blockquote></div></div></div>