<html><head></head><body> <div dir="auto">As a quick correction, PipeWire is a modern replacement for legacy audio software. It doesn't orient itself torwards consumer-grade or professional-grade usage, but instead allows different modes of operation depending on someone's user case. This discussion is adressed in their FAQ. Please feel free to check it out if you're interested in the project's goals! See: <a href="https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/wikis/FAQ#dont-pro-audio-and-consumer-audio-have-conflicting-requirements">https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/wikis/FAQ#dont-pro-audio-and-consumer-audio-have-conflicting-requirements</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In any case, PipeWire is just a reimplementation of older servers like PulseAudio and JACK. Internally, it makes use of ALSA's core libraries to speak with audio devices. In this way, it embraces the diversity of Linux ecosystem components, allowing for less latency and a better backend.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Given your interest in ALSA, you may wish to read up on their documentation. It's surprisingly clean, and offers insights into their design decisions. You might seriously like it!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Take care,</div><div dir="auto">Barrett</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div>On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 3:33 AM, Ambrose LI <<a class="" href="mailto:On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 3:33 AM, Ambrose LI <<a href=">ambrose.li@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"> Le ven. 14 juin 2024, à 03 h 59, Silvio Knizek <killermoehre@gmx.net> a écrit :<br>> wouldn't a pipewire control panel be more useful for a broader spectrum<br>> of users? Especially going forward with the wayland compatibility with<br>> Xfce > 4.20.<br><br>I personally don’t use ALSA directly (unless we’re talking about<br>MIDI), but my thought is that because of the way audio on Linux is<br>intentionally segmented, this is always going to be a niche.<br><br>To elaborate, on Linux audio is split into creator-oritiented and<br>consumer-oriented. PulseAudio is consumer-oriented, and I believe<br>(sorry if I’m wrong) PipeWire also is. So all the users who don’t use<br>PulseAudio will be musicians and similar.<br><br>I don’t know how many musicians use raw ALSA. I’d imagine most would<br>use JACK (except in special cases like MIDI), but I think the number<br>of users who do not use PulseAudio/PipeWire is underestimated if<br>you’re coming from the consumer-oriented segment.<br><br>(I also have a piece of equipment that can’t be handled by PulseAudio.<br>But as I mentioned, I’m not using raw ALSA myself; I let JACK handle<br>it.)<br>--<br>Ambrose Li // http://o.gniw.ca / http://gniw.ca<br>If you saw this on CE-L: You do not need my permission to quote<br>me, only proper attribution. Always cite your sources, even if<br>you have to anonymize and/or cite it as "personal communication".<br>_______________________________________________<br>Xfce4-dev mailing list<br>Xfce4-dev@xfce.org<br>https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev<br></blockquote></body></html>