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<div>Hi,<br></div><div>I think that developing a solution to receive donations is out of question, we don't have the manpower/motivation for it. I'm also confident none of core contributors is comfortable holding funds in the name of the project, that's quite a responsiblity, not to mention paperwork obligations.<br></div><div>As for bountysource, until we have a proper substitute I would say to keep it open for donations.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>Andre Miranda<br></div><div><br></div><div>Apr 20, 2021, 13:58 by bw509@centurylink.net:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div><span class="size" style="font-size:undefinedpx">Greetings to y'all!<br> <br> Fwiw: if your objective is to withdraw from bountysource (@ <a href="https://www.bountysource.com/teams/xfce" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.bountysource.com/teams/xfce</a> ) then the link to that
service should be removed from xfce's page ( @ <a href="https://www.xfce.org/getinvolved" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.xfce.org/getinvolved</a> ) sooner than later. As you can
see, donations are still flowing in, thus donors will have to be
contacted to redirect their payment directives -- not an easy
task, for sure...<br> <br> I have looked at kde.org, ubuntu-mate, mate-desktop, linux mint,
opencollective, patreon, and other paywalls, and would humbly
suggest to develop a PayPal-based solution. For the simple reason
that it their API works well and can be used internationally.
However, there's a rub: if the person/entity that manages (read:
admin & bank accounts) the PayPal account is a US-"taxpayer"
(has an SSN or applied for/uses an EIN), then the flow of
donations becomes subject to US tax-laws per se, and possibly tax
liabilities, and perhaps additional information-report filing
requirements (ie f1099) on US recipients of donated funds.<br> <br> On the up-side, Incorporating a non-profit corp / trust
/foundation here in one of the US states is relatively simple and
cheap, but does require a "registered agent" (for legal process)
in the state of incorporation, ie Nevada or Washington. <br> <br> Just some constructive thoughts. Cheers, BW<br> <br> ------------------<br> </span></div><div> <br></div><div class="">On 4/19/21 5:31 PM, <a href="mailto:kevin.bowen@gmail.com" class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">kevin.bowen@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><p>That was definitely not the case. But thank you.<br></p><div class="">On 4/18/21 6:23 PM, Yousuf Philips
wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>After we got rejected, I had reached out to the
person handling social media for Endeavor and he found it
strange that Xfce would be rejected and said "If he [Kevin]
wanted to join the team, then I understand the rejection. This
is only reserved for the founders and our fiscal host. If he
has an Open Collective account he should be joining it. By it,
I mean the collective." <br></div><div><div><br></div><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" class="" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Regards,<br></div><div>Yousuf<br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class=""><div class="" dir="ltr">On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:15
AM Kevin Bowen <<a href="mailto:kevin.bowen@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">kevin.bowen@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class=""><div>It appears that Open
Collective has admitted an error and reversed their <br></div><div> decision for not allowing Xfce to join one of their
communities/fiscal <br></div><div> hosts. *shrug* I'll pick this up again next week.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Kevin<br></div><div> <br></div><div> On 4/15/21 1:41 PM, Kevin Bowen wrote:<br></div><div> > Update:<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > Open Collective is quickly being moved off of the table
as a viable <br></div><div> > fiscal host for the Xfce project.<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > I had applied to join one of there collective, and was
rejected <br></div><div> > because Xfce did not meet their criteria.<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.oscollective.org/#criteria">https://www.oscollective.org/#criteria</a><br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > I can only guess that Xfce is not popular, or open
source enough for <br></div><div> > them. Perhaps we don't have enough GitHub stars on our
repositories. <br></div><div> > :-/ I don't really know as they have not responded to
my specific <br></div><div> > questions.<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > I am still sort of engaged with them; but, this
reception may be a <br></div><div> > good indicator that we may not want to deal with them.
We shall see.<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > Kevin<br></div><div> ><br></div><div> > On 4/13/21 9:22 PM, Kevin Bowen wrote:<br></div><div> >> Hello all,<br></div><div> >><br></div><div> >> The Xfce project is currently in the process of
looking to engage <br></div><div> >> with a new<br></div><div> >> organization to help us manage our collective funds
as well as allow <br></div><div> >> us to<br></div><div> >> solicit donations and encourage fundraising efforts
directed to end <br></div><div> >> users who<br></div><div> >> would like to support Xfce financially.<br></div><div> >><br></div><div> >> Back in June 2020, Simon had elaborated <br></div><div> >> [here](<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/18/why-bountysource-why/">https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/18/why-bountysource-why/</a>)<br></div><div> >> as well as <br></div><div> >> [here](<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/26/bountysource-update/">https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2020/06/26/bountysource-update/</a>)<br></div><div> >> on some of the issues encountered with Bountysource
and that Xfce <br></div><div> >> has, subsequently,<br></div><div> >> disabled its bug bounties and is looking to
separate from its <br></div><div> >> association with<br></div><div> >> Bountysource.<br></div><div> >><br></div><div> >> As of this month, the Xfce team is considering
signing up with <br></div><div> >> [opencollective](<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://opencollective.com/">https://opencollective.com/</a>)
to assist us in <br></div><div> >> managing donations and financial contributions.<br></div><div> >><br></div><div> >> There are a few other options/orgs that are still
being considered; <br></div><div> >> but, opencollective is looking like a contender for
where we will be <br></div><div> >> moving towards to manage collecting funds.<br></div><div> >><br></div><div> >><br></div><div> >> Hopefully, we can announce, in a few weeks, that we
are open for <br></div><div> >> business; and,<br></div><div> >> a few new donation buttons can be put up on our
pages. Perhaps we can <br></div><div> >> even do a PR push to do a fundraiser. I am open to
suggestions on <br></div><div> >> how, exactly, to pursue this.<br></div><div> >><br></div><div> >> That being said, I would like to open this up to
the general dev <br></div><div> >> mailing list for discussion and feedback for at
least two weeks <br></div><div> >> before we make a final decision. As of today, the
decision to go with <br></div><div> >> opencollective is not yet final.<br></div><div> >><br></div><div> >> Any constructive feedback is welcome. Additionally,
we are open to <br></div><div> >> considering other sites/orgs for handling our
donations.<br></div><div> >><br></div><div> >> Thank you,<br></div><div> >><br></div><div> >> kevin<br></div><div> >><br></div><div> >><br></div><div> _______________________________________________<br></div><div> Xfce4-dev mailing list<br></div><div> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:Xfce4-dev@xfce.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">Xfce4-dev@xfce.org</a><br></div><div> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev">https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev</a><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div><pre class="" wrap="">_______________________________________________
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