<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi André --</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>Yes, a fluxbox session where xfce4-panel will also be present (in some form). Thanks for your suggestion, I'll take a look at that.</div><div><br></div><div>We've been moving forward since I first wrote and now actually have a plan:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Proof of concept -- done</div><div>I posted a video (I'm not very good...) on my MX-Fluxbox YouTube channel over the weekend called "Tips & Tricks #2," the second half of which demonstrates a simple manual hack that allows the use of Xfce plugins within Fluxbox:</div><div>a) add to startup: <i>xfce4-panel &</i></div><div>b) right-click the panel to create a second panel</div><div>3) delete the first panel</div><div>4) add the weather (or clock, etc.) plugin to that tiny panel</div><div>That survives rebooting so can be put into operation and tested by users immediately. Note that the Xfce4 panel is not being used as an actual panel, but simply as a container for the plugin.</div><div><br></div><div>2. Adapt MX-Tweak to new treatment -- in progress</div><div>MX-Tweak currently backs up/restores the panel without user options. We are recoding that (it's in Qt) to give the user the ability to save/restore a panel by name. That will not only allow MX-Fluxbox users to preserve the panel they want to use when in Xfce, but facilitates to our thinking some interesting new uses such as caching task-specific panels. </div><div><br></div><div>3. Fork and repurpose xfce4-panel-profiles - in dream land</div><div>Its current form is essentially unusable for our purposes as far as we can see, and is not particularly user-friendly (especially if not running a 'buntu distro). But if our basic concept works out, it might be worth our looking at this possibility at some point in the future.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again.</div><div><br></div><div>Jerry</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 6:00 AM <<a href="mailto:xfce4-dev-request@xfce.org">xfce4-dev-request@xfce.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send Xfce4-dev mailing list submissions to<br>
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 22:54:54 -0300<br>
From: André Miranda <<a href="mailto:andre42m@gmail.com" target="_blank">andre42m@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Hi Jerry,<br>
I'm still confused, by "fluxbox side" do you mean a fluxbox session where<br>
xfce4-panel will also be present?<br>
I didn't try, maybe creating a symlink from different folders (e.g.<br>
~/.config/xfce4/panel-xfce and ~/.config/xfce4/panel-fluxbox) to<br>
~/.config/xfce4/panel could accomplish what you need.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
André Miranda<br>
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:21 AM Jerry Bond <<a href="mailto:stormyjerry@gmail.com" target="_blank">stormyjerry@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hi André and Simon --<br>
><br>
> Thanks for the responses, sorry that I was unclear. Bottom line:<br>
><br>
> *I would like to able to use panel elements on the fluxbox side without<br>
> disturbing the Xfce side config. *<br>
><br>
> The solution I was working on was to try to bypass the main panel-1 and<br>
> just launch panel-2 (weather or any other plugin)--that may not be optimal<br>
> I now see.<br>
><br>
> @André: I am considering a panel just for weather, and I have set that up<br>
> successfully. But to get that it I needed to also have panel-1 and hide it.<br>
><br>
> @Simon: I looked at xfce4-panel-profiles in the past, but it did not seem<br>
> to work across the two desktops and did not appear to back up our config.<br>
> I'm not sure what it is looking for, but our MX Tweak accomplishes such a<br>
> backup by exporting /.config/xfce4/panel and ...xfconf.<br>
><br>
> That profiles app is not in Debian, as you probably know, but we had<br>
> ported 1.0.9 to our repo; I have just asked our packagers to upgrade to the<br>
> new release so that I can look again this weekend.<br>
><br>
> Thanks for getting back to me.<br>
><br>
> Jerry<br>
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> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 18:36:13 -0300<br>
> From: André Miranda <<a href="mailto:andre42m@gmail.com" target="_blank">andre42m@gmail.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:andre42m@gmail.com" target="_blank">andre42m@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> Hi Jerry,<br>
> I don't understand what you want to accomplish. You said users could have<br>
> two different panels, one is xfce4-panel and the other is from fluxbox. You<br>
> also said that you want to use weather-plugin, presumably in xfce4-panel,<br>
> now I can't follow what's the problem here, do you what a panel just for<br>
> weather-plugin, or do you want it to be hidden and just show up when a<br>
> command is executed?<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Andre Miranda<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:40 PM Jerry Bond <<a href="mailto:stormyjerry@gmail.com" target="_blank">stormyjerry@gmail.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:stormyjerry@gmail.com" target="_blank">stormyjerry@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi Devs --<br>
><br>
> I am the Lead for MX Fluxbox, which ships now with MX Linux as a "fully<br>
> integrated overlay" that makes use of underlying Xfce for the desktop<br>
> environment. It would provide exciting possibilities for a user to be able<br>
> to set up two different panels, one for Xfce and the other for Fluxbox--or<br>
> for that matter, one for Business and the other for Personal use.<br>
><br>
> The specific scenario that leads to this email: weather. Your brilliant<br>
> xfce4-weather-plugin is by far the easiest, fastest, most robust and most<br>
> versatile way to have access to weather conditions and forecast. I would<br>
> like to be able to use it, but at the moment all I can see is to create a<br>
> second panel and use it with the first one autohidden. Neither elegant nor<br>
> finally very practical. In my scenario would like to be able to launch the<br>
> weather panel, say:<br>
><br>
> *xfce4-panel --panel-2*<br>
><br>
> or if aliases were possible:<br>
><br>
> *xfce4-panel --weather*<br>
><br>
> So my question: is there an existing mechanism that I could make use of?<br>
><br>
> Thanks for reading.<br>
><br>
> Jerry Bond<br>
> MX Linux Project Manager<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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> Hi Jerry,<br>
><br>
> I'm in the same boat as André, but if you really want to look into<br>
> something like this then I guess using something like xfce4-panel-profiles<br>
> to re/store panel settings/profiles from the commandline (implies you have<br>
> to also restart the panel in such a script) would be one way to go...<br>
><br>
> But yeah, what André said :)<br>
><br>
> Cheers<br>
> Simon<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 11:36 PM André Miranda <<a href="mailto:andre42m@gmail.com" target="_blank">andre42m@gmail.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:andre42m@gmail.com" target="_blank">andre42m@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi Jerry,<br>
> I don't understand what you want to accomplish. You said users could have<br>
> two different panels, one is xfce4-panel and the other is from fluxbox. You<br>
> also said that you want to use weather-plugin, presumably in xfce4-panel,<br>
> now I can't follow what's the problem here, do you what a panel just for<br>
> weather-plugin, or do you want it to be hidden and just show up when a<br>
> command is executed?<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Andre Miranda<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:40 PM Jerry Bond <<a href="mailto:stormyjerry@gmail.com" target="_blank">stormyjerry@gmail.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:stormyjerry@gmail.com" target="_blank">stormyjerry@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi Devs --<br>
><br>
> I am the Lead for MX Fluxbox, which ships now with MX Linux as a "fully<br>
> integrated overlay" that makes use of underlying Xfce for the desktop<br>
> environment. It would provide exciting possibilities for a user to be able<br>
> to set up two different panels, one for Xfce and the other for Fluxbox--or<br>
> for that matter, one for Business and the other for Personal use.<br>
><br>
> The specific scenario that leads to this email: weather. Your brilliant<br>
> xfce4-weather-plugin is by far the easiest, fastest, most robust and most<br>
> versatile way to have access to weather conditions and forecast. I would<br>
> like to be able to use it, but at the moment all I can see is to create a<br>
> second panel and use it with the first one autohidden. Neither elegant nor<br>
> finally very practical. In my scenario would like to be able to launch the<br>
> weather panel, say:<br>
><br>
> *xfce4-panel --panel-2*<br>
><br>
> or if aliases were possible:<br>
><br>
> *xfce4-panel --weather*<br>
><br>
> So my question: is there an existing mechanism that I could make use of?<br>
><br>
> Thanks for reading.<br>
><br>
> Jerry Bond<br>
> MX Linux Project Manager<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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