<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /></head><body><div data-html-editor-font-wrapper="true" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Hi,<br><br>I +1 the promotion of Greybird as the default upstream theme for 4.14, and ensure/guarantee Xfce components look correct with it.<br>Of course, it's only the default theme, packagers/users can use whatever theme they want in their distributions :)<br><br><br>August 21, 2018 3:24 PM, "André Miranda" <<a target="_blank" tabindex="-1" href="mailto:andre42m@gmail.com?to=%22Andr%C3%A9%20Miranda%22%20<andre42m@gmail.com>">andre42m@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> <blockquote><div><div><div dir="ltr">Hi guys,<br>I would like to bring to your attention about the current theming situation of Xfce.<br><br>Since long ago Xfce used to provide themes (gtk-xfce-engine), however due the gtk3 migration and the lack of manpower to port those themes, they have been archived and won't be part of Xfce 4.14.<br>I have no hard feelings about them, they were a bit dated, perhaps someday someone ports those themes.<br><br>My concern is what should be our stance when people, specially packagers, ask us which theme should be Xfce's default.<br>The obvious choice is Adwaita since it is gtk's default theme anyway, but not only that, it is also Gnome's default.<br>In that case, Xfce's appearance would resemble a lot Gnome's, nothing against it, but we would lost our own visual identity.<br><br>My proposal is to adopt a well maintained theme which remarkably supports Xfce, in this case the obvious choice is Greybird. I asked Simon (ochosi) and he is fine with this idea.<br><br>What are the implications to promote Greybird as the official theme?<br>1. We should ensure/guarantee Xfce components look correct with it.<br>1.1 We also need to make sure everything looks fine with Adwaita.<br>1.2 No strict guarantee for other themes.<br>2. It's up to shimmer authors to move to Xfce infra or not.<br>3. IMHO it is easier to introduce tweaks for Xfce in Greybird than Adwaita.<div>4. Recommend Greybird to packagers, but it is ultimately their call to use it, Adwaita or any other theme.</div> <div></div> <div>Cheers,</div> <div>Andre Miranda</div> </div></div></div></blockquote> <br><br><signature></signature> </div></body></html>