<div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px">Hi Vinz,</span><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px">thanks for taking the time to write all this down - makes a lot of sense. I agree with all your points (although I would consider B3 really only valid if we have enough manpower etc ;) ).</div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px">In accordance with A3 I have decided to share the burden of transifex super-coordinator with you (especially as none of the current super-coordinators are really living their role).</div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px">For A1 and A2 I guess we need to have a chat with Pasi or Romain.</div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px">Cheers</div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px">Simon</div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 1:08 AM Vinzenz Vietzke <<a href="mailto:vinz@vinzv.de">vinz@vinzv.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi there,<br>
<br>
I recently went through many parts of Xfce's i18n infrastructure and<br>
documentation. To make it short: lot's of old stuff, many things<br>
unmaintained but truly a lot of useful gems grown throughout the years.<br>
<br>
So following up is my proposal for reorganizing i18n in Xfce, split into<br>
two phases. I put it up on this list to reach more people.<br>
<br>
<br>
A. Short term<br>
<br>
1. Dump mailing lists. One list (xfce-i18n) is enough and for<br>
language-specific questions, discussions a short [LANG] tag added to the<br>
email topic should do the distinction job.<br>
Bonus: questions might be answered quicker as more people read them.<br>
<br>
2. Before dumping email all lists subscribers directly and (of course)<br>
telling them about. Plus asking them if they are on this list alread<br>
and, which is even more important, if they would like to help out on<br>
Transifex.<br>
<br>
3. Transifex needs coordinators for every language. If there is no one<br>
coordinating a language there should be some "super-coordinators" as<br>
backup. These persons shouldn't be devs or at least not core devs.<br>
Stacking work leads to problems.<br>
<br>
<br>
B. Long term (mostly RFC)<br>
<br>
1. Ease up the introduction process. Someone dropping by at Transifex<br>
sees the need of some translation work in his language. If he decides to<br>
register at TX, to join team *and* do work: yeah, cool!<br>
But forcing him to additionally join the mailing list and introduce<br>
himself is a major blocking thing. I guess it's something from the<br>
pre-Transifex days where quality assurance had to be done manually. But<br>
with the split of translators & reviewers over TX this should be obsolete.<br>
<br>
2. Wiki needs clean up. There are lots of really, really useful things.<br>
But as well there is lots of ancient, outdated stuff. Unfortunately most<br>
stuff is mixed so there needs to be manual work done.<br>
TBD: a process of cleaning up, either dumping everything and rebuilding<br>
or the other way around.<br>
<br>
3. Revise the use of Transifex. It's not self hosted and it's<br>
proprietary but it does the job. There are up- and downsides of it so in<br>
the light of the Git hosting discussion TX should also be reconsidered<br>
*openly*.<br>
<br>
<br>
Generally speaking I'd step up for both doing "dirty jobs" as well as<br>
coordination work.<br>
Thanks for your time reading this!<br>
<br>
Looking forward to your comments,<br>
vinz.<br>
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