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    Good that it works now. But indeed it should be in the doc.<br>
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    Basically as the plugin is now on your panel, it is started and
    Orage is just a click away.<br>
    As the startup option thing is not as simple as it sounds, I am not
    very eager to implement it.<br>
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    Juha<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">04.02.2015, 14:57, LUIS VALENZUELA
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        <div>Ok, I got it! How dumb. Now it's working perfect. Perhaps
          this should be included in the documentation. <br>
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        Now, this solves point 2. Any idea about point 1?<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2015-02-04 12:48 GMT+00:00 Juha <span
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Indeed it is missing
              from the documentation. But you should find it same way
              than any other panel plugin.<br>
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              <div>04.02.2015, 14:28, LUIS VALENZUELA kirjoitti:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Oh, I don't know where that plugin
                      is. Documentation (4.7) does not say something
                      about a clock in the panel. Hidden features list
                      doesn't either. Is that plugin outside the
                      project's page?<br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">2015-02-04 12:09
                        GMT+00:00 Juha <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hmm.
                            Orage has its own panel clock plugin, which
                            I meant.<br>
                            But probably we are talking about different
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                                Juha<br>
                                <div>04.02.2015, 14:04, LUIS VALENZUELA
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                                      <div>Hi Juha,<br>
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                                      I don't really see what types of
                                      clock can Orage do. Note that I'm
                                      not referring to the Globaltime
                                      tool. That tool doesn't show the
                                      date and it cannot be put on top
                                      of the panel. Regarding orage
                                      itself, I don't see any option to
                                      add a clock, except the option to
                                      use a dynamic icon, which again is
                                      not too visible and has no clock.
                                      I hope I'm not missing something
                                      in the features! I'm using Orage
                                      4.10.0 with Xubuntu 14.04.<br>
                                      <br>
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                                    Best,<br>
                                    Luis.<br>
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                                    <div class="gmail_quote">2015-02-04
                                      11:30 GMT+00:00 Juha <span
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                                          bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Luis,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          I am curious about 2). What
                                          kind of format are you using
                                          with standard Xfce clock,
                                          which Orage can not do?<br>
                                          I believe Orage can do all
                                          formats except analog clock.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Juha<br>
                                          <div>04.02.2015, 12:34, LUIS
                                            VALENZUELA kirjoitti:<br>
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                                                          <div>Hello
                                                          there.<br>
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                                                          First, thanks
                                                          for the app.
                                                          It is simple,
                                                          elegant and
                                                          useful!. Now,
                                                          I would like
                                                          to make two
                                                          features
                                                          request for
                                                          this app:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          1) Start up
                                                          option: it
                                                          would be nice
                                                          to have an
                                                          option within
                                                          the
                                                          Preferences
                                                          menu to add
                                                          Orage to the
                                                          start up list.
                                                          I know this
                                                          can be done in
                                                          other ways but
                                                          given the
                                                          importance of
                                                          the app
                                                          (managing all
                                                          your
                                                          appointments
                                                          and so) it
                                                          might be
                                                          useful to have
                                                          it there as an
                                                          option.<br>
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                                                          2) Calendar
                                                          integration
                                                          with Clock:
                                                          normally, you
                                                          would expect
                                                          users to have
                                                          Orage <b>and</b>
                                                          the standard
                                                          xfce clock.
                                                          Now, when you
                                                          click on the
                                                          clock a
                                                          calendar
                                                          appears. This
                                                          calendar is
                                                          the same as
                                                          the one of
                                                          Orage (I
                                                          imagine Orage
                                                          is based on
                                                          it). However,
                                                          that calendar
                                                          is not
                                                          interactive.
                                                          This seems to
                                                          me a waste of
                                                          resources and
                                                          space. This
                                                          could be
                                                          solved 1) if
                                                          Orage is
                                                          integrated in
                                                          the clock's
                                                          calendar, or
                                                          2) if Orage
                                                          has an option
                                                          to display the
                                                          date and time
                                                          (currently it
                                                          can also
                                                          display the
                                                          date but it is
                                                          not easy to
                                                          read). In both
                                                          cases there
                                                          would be only
                                                          one item in
                                                          the panel.<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                        These are not
                                                        big issues and
                                                        you can always
                                                        find some
                                                        workarounds but
                                                        a direct
                                                        solution from
                                                        Orage
                                                        preferences
                                                        would make
                                                        things easier. <br>
                                                        <br>
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                                                      Any comments
                                                      welcome.<br>
                                                      <br>
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                                                    Best,<br>
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                                                  Luis.<br>
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