Feature: fix borders for misbehaving applications

Cyrille cyrille at enialis.net
Thu Oct 20 20:59:48 CEST 2022

Hi all !

 From where I stand, this discussion cannot go anywhere.

- Enrico I think you're too sensitive in your choice of words because of 
the time invested in your big patch/merge request (I tried to read it, 
but my level is a bit too low and the merge request too big).

- Xfce, even if used by lots of people (how many?) is still developed by 
very few people, so any big code addition is scary because it inherently 
add complexity, maintenance time, more tickets to sort and so on. I hope 
I got it right. So any big addition (and from what I seen in the merge 
request, it is) makes any maintainer reluctant to include it unless 
there are good reasons.

- The reasons highlighted by Enrico are understandable, maybe just not 
any good enough to integrate such changes.

- Sudden lots of activity in the mailing list, the merge request and the 
tickets for more-or-less considered no or low priority tasks may 
irritate some maintainers (by repeating themselves), so the tone is also 
not that relax as it was some emails ago.

I don't know where this should go now.

I would say (but I'm not maintainer nor regular Xfce developer) :

- divide your big merge request in smaller pieces, one for each goal, 
one idea at a time

- if some of, or all, your patches/merge requests are not accepted, you 
could still start by creating patched versions of xfce components 
involved using the AUR for ArchLinux and derivated distributions, 
perhaps also other similar packages. That way if this meets success and 
the patches are solid-enough it could be reconsidered.

All of this is only my sole opinion and may not reflect Xfce team 

If I'm completely mistaken, feel free to ignore this email ;-)


P.S. I, however, love the energy and explanations for your enhancement 
Enrico. It's always good to have contributions ;-)
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