Infrastructure Upgrades/Changes: Git(ea)

Matthew Brush mbrush at
Mon Oct 9 13:21:07 CEST 2017

On 2017-10-09 03:30 AM, Simon Steinbeiss wrote:
> Hi,
> while it's nice to see so many people contribute to this discussion let's
> stay on topic. For the time being we're discussing whether to set up Gitea,
> not Gitlab or to use Github.

Well you did link to:

Which appears to show the options being considered. It seems/seemed 
totally on-topic for people on the mailing list to participate in the 
discussion, otherwise you could have just said:

"We're considering switching to Gitea and nothing else, yeah or nay?"

Anyway, sorry for responding to the people who replied to my message and 
this :)

Matthew Brush

> Gitlab has very different resource needs than Gitea so we'd have to find
> different hosting/sponsoring beforehands.
> What I proposed is a brief setup/migration phase to avoid endless
> discussions, but keep our eyes on the price (which is 4.14).

> Cheers
> Simon
> Am Mo., 9. Okt. 2017, 11:42 schrieb Matthew Brush <mbrush at>:
>> On 2017-10-09 02:01 AM, Isabell Liefer wrote:
>>> Hi! I would like to suggest to move to a selfhosted GitLab instance and
>> to also mirror the repo on GitHub for a wider audience. What that be
>> convenient for you both?
>> There appears to already be a Github mirror, but it sort of misses the
>> mark if it's not used as the development platform.
>> To restate it again, I'd be very happy with a new self-hosted
>> Gitlab/Gitea/whatever, I'm just playing devil's advocate because I think
>> Github makes a lot of sense for a project like Xfce, except for ethical
>> (or whatever you call it) reasons. In terms of improving visibility,
>> ease of administration, and making it easier for (new) people to
>> contribute, Github (currently) wins hands-down, IMO.
>> Regards,
>> Matthew Brush
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Am 09.10.2017 um 04:17 schrieb Matthew Brush:
>>>> On 2017-10-08 06:51 PM, André Miranda wrote:
>>>>> GitHub is awesome, I really enjoy using it, but being proprietary is a
>>>>> no-go for a FLOSS project such as Xfce,
>>>> Github releases lots of their code as open source, but you can't
>>>> "install their whole business" locally, no.
>>>> Loads of FLOSS projects are completely fine, and rather thrive on
>>>> Github. Unlimited free hosting for open source projects with lots of
>>>> useful features, IMO, is rather nice.
>>>> To be clear, I'm not advocating for Xfce switching to Github, I'm just
>>>> pointing out that it's purely a political/ethical/emotional decision
>>>> rather than a technical/user-centric one. Personally I lean towards
>>>> pragmatism rather than having a strong political stance, but I can
>>>> appreciate that some people are more passionate about this than I am.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Matthew Brush
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