[Xfce 4.12] Roadmap and Features

[Jannis Pohlmann]

On Mon, 7 May 2012 12:27:24 +0200
Raphael Groner <raphgro at web.de> wrote:

> > Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 10:24:37 +0200
> > From: Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert at googlemail.com>
> > To: xfce4-dev at xfce.org
> > Subject: Re: [Xfce 4.12] Roadmap and Features
> > Message-ID: <1336379077.11490.1.camel at thinkmatic.localdomain>
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> > 
> > Am Montag, den 07.05.2012, 08:51 +0200 schrieb Landry Breuil:
> > 
> > > Same thing can be said the other way round ;) systemd will _never_
> > > work on some systems,
> > 
> > such as?
> > 
> > > so we''ll have to keep it optional too. Probably making a
> > > (mandatory ?) configure option selecting one of both (or none,
> > > since there's the sudo fallback) would make sense.
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> 
> Systemd seems to become default for (mostly) all big mainstream
> distributions. The goal is systemd, no matter. I don't think that a
> configuration option is needed. If there's no systemd on the target
> system, xfce4-session should fall back to sudo (or better gksu or
> such), automatically.

That's wrong. Ubuntu are sticking to upstart for instance [1]. I am not
sure about Ubuntu derivatives but they might as well. And then there's
alternative OSes like the BSDs who simply don't have systemd because
is Linux only. For all those systems you don't just want the sudo
fallback. 

If we can and if it's not too messy, we should allow systemd OR
consolekit etc. OR sudo.

  - Jannis

[1] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1121