<s>GTK+ 3</s> tabs in Thunar

Matt x edelstahl at gmx.us
Tue Oct 18 01:12:02 CEST 2011

On 10/17/2011 05:18 AM, Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:25:32 +0530
> "dE ."<de.techno at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> The main bottleneck is Developer support then, to maintain a large
>> codebase; as I've stated before, it's time for xfce to become
>> mainstream
> Ok, first of all, let me add something here. While the reasons to not
> implement tabs and split views include maintainability, it has also
> been a design decision from the start. Thunar is supposed to be simple.
> There will always be people who need 20+ windows and do heavy file
> management. But I assume the productiveness of the majority of users
> does not depend on tabs or split view.

I, for one, have almost never used tabs.  When I have, I find them 
cumbersome.  Even if I used tabs or a split view a lot, I could work 
just fine without them.  As someone said earlier, web browsing and file 
management are different.

> By the way, I object to "it's time for Xfce to become mainstream".
> First of all, that's not a choice we make but something that either
> does or does not happen. Also, this is not about making profit or
> anything. Some people do see all this as a kind of competition, but
> it isn't really. I suggest we stick to developing and maintaining a
> compact desktop environment, and continue to make what we already have
> better.
>    - Jannis

Thanks, Jannis.  I hadn't been able to put into words what was bothering 
me about this conversation.  We're not in competition (despite what some 
think), and we're not trying to make money.  I'll add that bandwagon 
arguments "we should do it because everyone else does it" I consider moot.

On 10/17/2011 12:32 PM, dE . wrote:
> Even on Gentoo, emerging Xfce with mininal useflag requires merging of
> 54 packages while merging of lxde requires 35 with less than half the
> download size.
> By this we can easily see the amount of source involved.

You're of course speaking of the meta package, which includes a number 
of unneccessary things.  So Gentoo's LXDE meta package includes fewer 
sub-packages than its XFCE meta package.  That doesn't have much to do 
with the memory, etc. use when you install only what you need.  And I've 
found when installing LXDE like that before, I have to borrow things 
from XFCE or elsewhere to get all the tools I want/need.

On 10/17/2011 12:48 PM, dE . wrote:
> By mainstream I mean simple but usable.

Ah, then our definitions are different.  When I see "mainstream", I 
think good features (maybe more than needed), pretty, but bigger (space, 
CPU, RAM) than completely necessary.  Like KDE and GNOME.
That said, I did use GNOME until 3.0 replaced 2.0 in my distro's repos. 
  My machine could handle it just fine.

> Also another thing (which's not that much important) is missing -- a
> freedesktop menu editor. I've been missing it from day 1, although now I can
> make .desktop entries, but a lot of people are searching for it.

It's called medit/gedit/kate/leafpad/nano/pico/joe/vi(m)/emacs... :P
Actually, doesn't alacarte work for that if you start from the default 
XFCE menu?  I haven't tried it, I just edit the xml files directly 
(which is much nicer in some cases, imo) now.


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