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[Maximilien Noal]

On 10/17/2011 06:32 PM, dE . wrote:
> On 10/17/11 12:24, Maximilien Noal wrote:
>> On 10/17/2011 06:55 AM, dE . wrote:
>>> On 10/16/11 16:06, Natanael Copa wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:58:54 +0530
>>>> "dE ."<de.techno at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Even if tabs are implemented, what harm will it pose on users not in
>>>>> favor of using tabs? Those who'll use will use it, those who won't,
>>>>> won't use it.
>>>> More (unused) code = bloat = needs more memory = things gets slower.
>>>>
>>>> If it could be implemented as a plugin it wouldn't make any
>>>> "harm" (except consuming developer and support time)
>>>>
>>>> -nc
>>> The main bottleneck is Developer support then, to maintain a large 
>>> codebase; as I've stated before, it's time for xfce to become 
>>> mainstream, more 'heavy' cause we already have a lighter DE -- LXDE 
>>> which all distros are adopting instead of XFCE for a light weight 
>>> distro (Lubuntu is 12th while Xubuntu is 26th on distrowatch), so 
>>> the objectives of Xfce needs to change.
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>> In my experience, LXDE is a little heavier than Xfce, and Xfce *is* 
>> lightweight (which Xubuntu isn't, however)
> I'm hearing this first time. I tend to thing there's no comparison 
> between the 2, LXDE is way too low on resources, so low that it's 
> preferred even on servers cause of it's negligible overhead and 
> everyone seems to share a similar opinion. I being a former Xfce user 
> confirm this.
>
"htop" results (I could have used ps_mem.py, but I was lazy) :
-ArchLinux with LXDE (meta package containing ~15 packages) : uses 40 MB 
of RAM, 2%/3% CPU usage.
-ArchLinux with Xfce (meta package containing ~15 packages) : uses 50 MB 
of RAM, 2%/3% CPU usage.

My bad, my experience was from Lubuntu 10.04 vs Xubuntu 10.04, I think. 
Anyway, the difference is only 10 MB, that's not very much.
> Even on Gentoo, emerging Xfce with mininal useflag requires merging of 
> 54 packages while merging of lxde requires 35 with less than half the 
> download size.
>
> By this we can easily see the amount of source involved.
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