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dE . de.techno at gmail.com
Mon Oct 17 18:36:38 CEST 2011


On 10/17/11 19:01, Mike Massonnet wrote:
> 2011/10/17 dE .<de.techno at gmail.com>:
>> On 10/16/11 15:03, Mike Massonnet wrote:
>>> 2011/10/16 dE .<de.techno at gmail.com>:
>>>> On 10/16/11 00:32, Mike Massonnet wrote:
>>>>> [plese respect proper posting style]
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/10/15 dE .<de.techno at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> Tabbed browsing is a very basic feature of all FM (even PCmanfm
>>>>>> supports
>>>>>> it), everyone knows about it and is desired by everyone in a FM, also
>>>>>> integrated find allows capability of the FM to be applied to the search
>>>>>> results which's also incredibility useful, it also reduces task of
>>>>>> re-selecting the location to be searched; this feature is what people
>>>>>> expect
>>>>>> as a minimal, even Win has this feature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also it's a better if discussion is focused on the masses rather than
>>>>>> ourselves.
>>>>> You mention one file manger, which other, besides Nautilus, can you
>>>>> mention? And it's a topic that has been raised many times and the
>>>>> answer is clear enough, there won't be Tabs in Thunar.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of my last answers to this was in the forum:
>>>>> http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=22695#p22695
>>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand a filtering option inside a folder is something very
>>>>> interesting to have. You, me or someone else just need to take some
>>>>> spare time to focus on a decent patch that does it right.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2316
>>>>>
>>>> The reason why tabbed browsing is tempting cause you can group tasks
>>>> better,
>>>> e.g. all places can be opened in one window, so you don't have to search
>>>> for
>>>> the right location in the taskbar; you know all locations are opened in 1
>>>> window. In case you open 4 locations (not a rare scenario), tabbed
>>>> browsing
>>>> can reduce it to 2 -- grouping by tasks.
>>>>
>>>> I use it extensively in KDE (my current DE) and missed it when using XFCE
>>> So was this thread opened to debate about Tabs again?
>>>
>>> I don't use them in File managers (yes I do use them extensively in
>>> Web browsers), and you will never receive my vote for this feature.
>>> The number of windows I open is usually two for moving several files.
>>> This is the behavior of a side-panel file manager, not tabs.
>>>
>>> I don't see why tabs are important inside a file manager, except
>>> cluttering the UI and the code. The main goal is to provide a simple
>>> and clean program.
>>>
>>> Unless you can prove it's an essential design for a file manager, I
>>> don't think core developers will take spare time to implement this.
>>>
>>> Why not installing an alternative File manager that comes with this
>>> feature? (Nautilus, Dolphin with the right theme)?
>> Take a typical scenario of office work -- 2 or 3 documents are opened, since
>> the documents are in different locations and you need to copy them to
>> external storage later, in this sinario we have 2-3 instances of FM open and
>> a total of 4 - 6 windows opened which does make things cluttered. Later on,
>> you have to open another window to transfer the work a an external disk.
>> Sill, after this there's the possibility of opening additional windows like
>> web browser, mail client (which may have more have one window) etc... in
>> this case tabbed browsing is useful to reduce the number of open FM that
>> fill the taskbar, again as I said -- "e.g. all places can be opened in one
>> window, so you don't have to search for the right location in the taskbar".
>> Today there's no modern FM other than Thunar and Explorer.exe which doesn't
>> have tabbed browsing, this's a basic feature which all DEs agree with. Also
>> I've said before -- "Also it's a better if discussion is focused on the
>> masses rather than ourselves."
> Usually what you get as a system at work is explorer.exe. If you have
> the chance to be able to install software on it, you can choose a
> different file manager (let's name Total Commander, which doesn't have
> to be installed system-wide), but that's very seldom. If you are
> *lucky* enough to have a linux system with Xfce, you can always ask
> for another file manager, I'm sure there won't be objection to get
> Nautilus installed, and most probably it already is.
>
> Nobody still mentionned it, but Mac OS doesn't have Tabs either. Its
> file manager comes currently with three different views, but no Tabs.
>
> Let's have a look at all the existing file managers so far:
> http://www.guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/filemanager
>
> No tabs.
>
> The reason is quite simple, it keeps the window uncluttered. When you
> have tabs, you'll be able to mix views between the tabs, to have
> different Zoom, different Sort, different-what-not. Be free to pay
> someone on your own to maintain such a feature.
>
Ok the, I'll choose another FM. Since I'll treat it as a mainstream DE, 
no overhead issues.


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