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Mike Massonnet mmassonnet at gmail.com
Mon Oct 17 15:31:14 CEST 2011


2011/10/17 dE . <de.techno at gmail.com>:
> On 10/16/11 15:03, Mike Massonnet wrote:
>>
>> 2011/10/16 dE .<de.techno at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> On 10/16/11 00:32, Mike Massonnet wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [plese respect proper posting style]
>>>>
>>>> 2011/10/15 dE .<de.techno at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Tabbed browsing is a very basic feature of all FM (even PCmanfm
>>>>> supports
>>>>> it), everyone knows about it and is desired by everyone in a FM, also
>>>>> integrated find allows capability of the FM to be applied to the search
>>>>> results which's also incredibility useful, it also reduces task of
>>>>> re-selecting the location to be searched; this feature is what people
>>>>> expect
>>>>> as a minimal, even Win has this feature.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also it's a better if discussion is focused on the masses rather than
>>>>> ourselves.
>>>>
>>>> You mention one file manger, which other, besides Nautilus, can you
>>>> mention? And it's a topic that has been raised many times and the
>>>> answer is clear enough, there won't be Tabs in Thunar.
>>>>
>>>> One of my last answers to this was in the forum:
>>>> http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=22695#p22695
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand a filtering option inside a folder is something very
>>>> interesting to have. You, me or someone else just need to take some
>>>> spare time to focus on a decent patch that does it right.
>>>>
>>>> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2316
>>>>
>>> The reason why tabbed browsing is tempting cause you can group tasks
>>> better,
>>> e.g. all places can be opened in one window, so you don't have to search
>>> for
>>> the right location in the taskbar; you know all locations are opened in 1
>>> window. In case you open 4 locations (not a rare scenario), tabbed
>>> browsing
>>> can reduce it to 2 -- grouping by tasks.
>>>
>>> I use it extensively in KDE (my current DE) and missed it when using XFCE
>>
>> So was this thread opened to debate about Tabs again?
>>
>> I don't use them in File managers (yes I do use them extensively in
>> Web browsers), and you will never receive my vote for this feature.
>> The number of windows I open is usually two for moving several files.
>> This is the behavior of a side-panel file manager, not tabs.
>>
>> I don't see why tabs are important inside a file manager, except
>> cluttering the UI and the code. The main goal is to provide a simple
>> and clean program.
>>
>> Unless you can prove it's an essential design for a file manager, I
>> don't think core developers will take spare time to implement this.
>>
>> Why not installing an alternative File manager that comes with this
>> feature? (Nautilus, Dolphin with the right theme)?
>
> Take a typical scenario of office work -- 2 or 3 documents are opened, since
> the documents are in different locations and you need to copy them to
> external storage later, in this sinario we have 2-3 instances of FM open and
> a total of 4 - 6 windows opened which does make things cluttered. Later on,
> you have to open another window to transfer the work a an external disk.
> Sill, after this there's the possibility of opening additional windows like
> web browser, mail client (which may have more have one window) etc... in
> this case tabbed browsing is useful to reduce the number of open FM that
> fill the taskbar, again as I said -- "e.g. all places can be opened in one
> window, so you don't have to search for the right location in the taskbar".
> Today there's no modern FM other than Thunar and Explorer.exe which doesn't
> have tabbed browsing, this's a basic feature which all DEs agree with. Also
> I've said before -- "Also it's a better if discussion is focused on the
> masses rather than ourselves."

Usually what you get as a system at work is explorer.exe. If you have
the chance to be able to install software on it, you can choose a
different file manager (let's name Total Commander, which doesn't have
to be installed system-wide), but that's very seldom. If you are
*lucky* enough to have a linux system with Xfce, you can always ask
for another file manager, I'm sure there won't be objection to get
Nautilus installed, and most probably it already is.

Nobody still mentionned it, but Mac OS doesn't have Tabs either. Its
file manager comes currently with three different views, but no Tabs.

Let's have a look at all the existing file managers so far:
http://www.guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/filemanager

No tabs.

The reason is quite simple, it keeps the window uncluttered. When you
have tabs, you'll be able to mix views between the tabs, to have
different Zoom, different Sort, different-what-not. Be free to pay
someone on your own to maintain such a feature.

-- 
Mike


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