Renaming of Xfce components
jannis at xfce.org
Tue Apr 7 22:35:46 CEST 2009
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:49:39 +0200
Jelle de Jong <jelledejong at powercraft.nl> wrote:
> Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> > On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:47:51 +0200
> > Nick Schermer <nickschermer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 2009/4/2 Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac at debian.org>:
> >>> On jeu, 2009-04-02 at 08:13 +0200, Nick Schermer wrote:
> >>>> renaming other components that are core parts of
> >>>> the Xfce desktop sound like a stupid idea resulting in a lot of
> >>>> work for absolutely nothing.
> >>> Naaah, that's just fnu!
> >> Yea read that, after scrolling down (didn't expect any jokes this
> >> morning after reading my mail last night, I admit). But I do know
> >> people want such renaming, same as gdesktopmenu, which i still
> >> find a bit sad. Crossdesktop is how stuff is written, not the
> >> name. Sounds a bit like we're not proud of Xfce anymore.
> > I think that psychology plays an important role in the adaption of
> > libraries in the *nix world. I mean, why do we not depend on any
> > important libraries with 'gnome' in the name? And why does GNOME not
> > depend on any Xfce libraries? And why do we all use D-Bus, GTK+ and
> > HAL? Of course it's not all about the name but it can make it
> > harder to get a library acknowledged cross-desktop.
> > It's not about being proud of Xfce or anything. There is a reason
> > why DeviceKit, PolicyKit, HAL, D-Bus, DConf and tons of other
> > libraries have more generic names rather than carrying the name of
> > their origins with them. You could as well approach the "problem"
> > from another angle: Why would you want to name a library after one
> > desktop if you want it to be used cross-desktop?
> > The "g" has been sort of established in the GLib/GTK+ sector and I
> > fail see how that is a bad thing.
> >> Personally i think if we
> >> show the Xfce libraries/applications are crossdesktop and they are
> >> used by more people, it will result in Xfce being more popular and
> >> that's why we write software, make Xfce better but help open-source
> >> (more global) too.
> > Yes, it would be nice if Xfce libraries were used on other desktops.
> > But this is not the case for most of the GNOME libraries either, at
> > least not the ones that have 'gnome' in their name.
> > (And yes, of course the mail which started this thread was an April
> > fools joke.)
> > - Jannis
> Well, I have to commit on this thread, there is a good thought behind
> it and I think the xdgconf naming is a good move.
> If there is no reason why an other environment can't use the libs and
> the code is not specially xfce desktop code dependent then why should
> make it a general code name? It would at least lower the adoption
The whole thing (except for gdesktopmenu) was an april fool's joke!
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