Projects in xfce repos, ehm...
timtas at cubic.ch
Fri Nov 21 11:04:21 CET 2008
Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> On Nov 21, 2008, at 00:02 , Christian Dywan wrote:
>> Core: Components one needs in order to run a system in a useful way.
>> That includes roughly panels, window manager, whatever xfdesktop is,
>> the various settings applications, power management.
>> ^^ All of those should be stable. For instance, if the powermanager
>> isn't stable, I'd rather not see it there until it is.
>> Apps: Applications that are useful, that really many Xfce users would
>> use, but that are essentially replaceable. Such as terminal, file
>> manager, editor, archiver, image viewer, media player.
>> ^^ Thunar is a special one: it cannot practically be independant from
>> Core, but semantically for me it should be.
>> Goodies: All the rest kind of, things that are useful but not regularly
>> maintained, somewhat specialized, unstable.
> I haven't done anything in Xfce recently, but you'll get my 2cents anyway:
> This kind of stupid discussion repeats approx. once per year, and its
> always the same arguments pro and con. Given that Xfce still attempts to
> deliver a desktop environment and not only a window manager with nice
> buttons to start applications, it's really nonsense to talk about
> defining "core" w/o applications like the file manager, editor,
> terminal, image viewer, etc. A default install of Xfce should give you
> anything you need to get started and this "default install" should be
> represented in a common repository (and bug tracker, etc.) so that
> people who want to get involved (few enough already) don't get
> frustrated having to look up the source for these essential components
> first (no matter if they want to contribute code, documentation,
> translations, or whatever). If someone wants to replace application A
> with application B, he/she can do this later, but this is a special
> case; the majority of people (including myself, not just newbs as
> someone will surely attempt to argue) just want a working desktop
> environment, with file manager, editor and terminal at least!
Seconded. I also still have this notion that a desktop environment
should include a working file manager, a simple editor and a decent
Terminal application. If it doesn't, it isn't a desktop enviroment to
me, but rather a window manager with some utilities. Whether they are
replaceable is irrelevant.
I'd also include ristretto in core, as viewing images is a quite
essential feature for many users and they usually don't want to start
thinking about the choice of a simple image viewer, just to look at some
photograph they got.
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