Aw: Re: Default settings for 4.4

[Auke Kok]

Stephan wrote:
> On 4/9/06, SZERVÁC Attila <sas at 321.hu> wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Apr 2006, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 12:30 +0200, SZERVÁC Attila wrote:
>>>> (/etc/alternatives/)x-www-browser
>>>>                      x-terminal-emulator
>>>>                      etc.
>>> iirc alternatives are the Debian way. You can't assume every xfce users
>>> will use a Debian (or derived) distro :)
>> Sure. But many (most?) users use are using Debian based distro:
>>
>>     http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=independence
>>
>> So if setup script can't find preferred apps, can support most Linux and
>> all Hurd distro by Debian way.
> 
> 
> Debian-packagers can figure that out... if someone takes the tarball of the
> xfce-site we cannot assume Debian or any other distro.

the "debian" way is definately not the preferred way, even though they have 
gained substantial momentum in the last 2 years. Undoubtably this will shrink 
and grow, and debian will just remain "one of the distros".

It is never smart to pick a certain flavour for a project, especially a 
project like Xfce. We have tried to stay as much as possible distro-neutral as 
we can, and that is exactly what has made Xfce succesfull. Please keep this in 
mind - we definately appreciate distro's like debian because they make an 
effort in supporting Xfce, but we really have to avoid putting a "debian" 
stamp (or fedora stamp, or lunar stamp etc..) on Xfce.

This goes for everything in Xfce, even small things like the /etc/alternatives/.

Pointing to distrowatch is stupid too, their statistics are based on clicks 
and only geeks will follow links. I am 100% sure that redhat and suse take up 
more than 50% of the entire market, and FC a good third, but hardly anyone who 
runs redhat will ever know about distrowatch.

so, I agree with Stephan - if debian/ubuntu wants to add to xfce packages, 
they already do and will - we shouldn't make other people jump through loops 
and provide *everyone* with sane defaults.

Auke