Brian J. Tarricone
bjt23 at cornell.edu
Thu Jun 9 22:46:44 CEST 2005
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Don Christensen wrote:
> Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
>>Optimising the WM's mapping speed here is a waste of time: a classic
>>case of useles optimisation of a non-critical path; a user wouldn't
>>likely notice any difference. I'd rather have the things Olivier
>>describes: intelligent window placement, fast response to resize and
>>So: oh yay, E17 maps windows quickly. Whoopie-do.
> I would generally agree with you, but the problem is one of perception.
> Unfortunately, benchmark numbers have been published (loosely speaking)
> that show Xfce to have abysmal performance compared with a whole host
> of other WMs/DEs. How many users are not even going to try Xfce if
> they see those numbers?
Yeah, that thought did indeed occur to me, but to be honest, I'm really
not interested. If people don't want to use Xfce because of some silly
meaningles benchmark, then that just means fewer clueless people I (we)
need to support. That sounds pretty harsh, I know, but hey, I'm an ass
sometimes. I don't work on Xfce because I want to take over the world
or get market share numbers; I work on it because it's fun.
> I realize that isn't fair and that there are much better criteria to
> base a decision on, but that's the way it is. How many WMs/DEs have
> you tried out lately? I know I got really tired after two or three
> (luckily one of those was Xfce) when I was looking, and I haven't
> tried any since. There are just too many options to try out, so it
> is easy to eliminate any that are at the bottom of some benchmark.
Right up front I'll say this: I'm aware that I'm not an average user,
and I don't evaluate things using the same criteria average users use.
Having said that, I'm not going to look at "benchmarks" when trying to
decide whether or not to use something like a DE. Raw speed is useless
to me in that sense. When talking about a DE, I find the term
"benchmark" to be meaningless. (General perfomance, however, is
something I would look at; a WM map-speed benchmark is totally
irrelevant in that kind of metric.)
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