new dev branch stuff

Jens Luedicke jens.luedicke at gmail.com
Wed Jan 19 17:03:53 CET 2005


On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:04:21 +0100, Benedikt Meurer
<benedikt.meurer at unix-ag.uni-siegen.de> wrote:
> > [strip]
> 
> Playing the devils advocate: Do you think we are still in-line with the
> goals of Xfce? Do we have any clear goals for Xfce (esp. for 4.4)? For
> me, the primary goals have always been to be lightweight, easy to use
> and advanced (which implies well-designed code, stability and
> maintainability); as a side note, this is the reason why I was never
> really happy with xfprint4, until JF took over maintainership.
> 
> To me, it seems, we are loosing the focus somehow. I can't tell you any
> exact reason; it just feels like Xfce is going in the wrong direction
> somehow. Applications should be designed for the specific user (not the
> general user, but the specific user of this application). But a desktop
> environment is more difficult, as there's not really a "specific user",
> since the desktop environment is more of a container for applications.
> 
> Picking up what Auke suggested some time ago, the core of the desktop
> environment should be very small and lightweight, leaving only the core
> desktop applications in there, and having the "non-core applications"
> outside the core.
> 

I think we need to rearrange everything a little and the goal for future
releases is to make what we have now even better working/designed. 
Jasper already started to integrate the panel, taskbar and iconbox into
something new that still provides the same features. 

The core should be lightwight and should be the bare minimum of software
that xfce4 provides today. 

Furthermore a nice set of little user applications.

This is a list of stuff that I consider as core and utils:

core:
- libs, mcs
- xfwm
- xfdesktop
- panel, taskbar, iconbox

utils:
- some simple file manager
- simple terminal
- xfprint
- mousepad
- xftask
- xfcalendar

xfce4-libs
xfce4-core
xfce4-utils (not needed for the desktop itself, but nice to have)

remove toys and additional panel plugins -> goodies projects

just my 0.02 EUR :)

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Jens Luedicke
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