What are the objectives for Xfce 4.4?

[Benedikt Meurer]

Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
>> * xffm to be replaced by a smaller, simpler, more basic file manager.
> 
> Actually, I'd like to see no file manager in the core whatsoever.

Thats what I'm trying to tell for a long time: Have no 3rd party apps in 
core.

> Well, 
> sorta.  I think we should have a really stripped-down file view widget 
> with file-management capabilities in libxfcegui4 (or if it ends up being 
> to large, perhaps its own library).  Xfdesktop can optionally create an 
> instance of this widget (by dlopen()ing it if its in its own library) 
> for the desktop, and a separate file manager binary could do something 
> similar, and implement a configuration interface and a host of other 
> nifty things.  But this file manager need not be in the core.
> 
> I'm really *really* against folding desktop management duties into the 
> file manager a la nautilus.  It just doesn't make sense, IMHO, and makes 
> it difficult for users to a) use Xfce's file manager with a different 
> DE, or b) use Xfce with a different file manager.  I'm actually 
> surprised that was suggested, as it seems like quite the opposite of 
> modularity.

I really *klemmer* this idea. I don't see why a file manager shouldn't 
be desktop-independent, or why it should reduce Xfce's modularity, but I 
see that such a `file view widget library' will surely become a 
maintaince problem.

>    -b

Benedikt