panel dock type broken

Michael Andrews mandrews at
Mon Jul 12 04:42:00 CEST 2004

Look, I'm new here, and you guys can do what you think is best; but
allow me to decent for a moment.

Personally, I prefer to have the panel ALMOST completely covered.  I
tend to leave just enough space to see the bottom of the icons.  I can
then click them without without disturbing my windows (as soon I
suppress the panel raise that occurs).  This is the way CDE works on HP
workstation at work and I _LIKE_ it.  This is why I submitted a patch to
get the iconbox to work the same way as the panel (which BTW doesn't
seem to have been accepted -- c'est la vive).

"Always on top" is what has driven to xfce (from gnome via several other
options).  If you guys drop it, I'll have to start my desktop/wm
wanderings again.

OK, I'm done.  Switching to lurk mode.
Michael Andrews <mandrews at>

On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 23:23, edscott wrote:
> I liked the old way where you could set the level. But I do not see any
> problem with having it always on top and set to auto hide. What would be
> nice would be to have some configurable "resistance" to show the window
> (like when dragging windows from one desktop to another). This is
> because the only problem with autohide mode is that the panel is
> constantly unhiding unintentionally while you move the mouse close to
> the bottom.
> two cents...
> El vie, 09-07-2004 a las 04:01, Jasper Huijsmans escribió:
> > On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 10:37:39AM +0200, Olivier wrote:
> > > Jasper,
> > > 
> > > The panel is still broken in CVS. I fail to see the benefit of changing
> > > the type to normal from dock and vice versa.
> > > 
> > > Either we choose to set the panel to "dock" and stick with that (and the
> > > "always on top" option is irrelevant), or we choose to set the panel as
> > > a normal window and set the additional states (always on top, skip
> > > pager, skip taskbar etc) manually. 
> > > 
> > > Anyway, mixing all this like it is now in CVS is conceptually broken
> > > IMO, and won't give any good result...
> > > 
> > > BTW, struts aren't reserved for docks, you can set struts and partial
> > > struts to any kind of window.
> > > 
> > > Personnally, I wouldn't mind setting the panel to dock type and remove
> > > the always on top.
> > > 
> > 
> > Thanks, I cannot agree with you more. I'm afraid I gave in to the pressure too
> > soon. To me it makes sense to have the panel as a dock type window.
> > 
> > On the other hand there are apparently a lot of people who want their panel to
> > be covered by other windows.
> > 
> > I have two options:
> > - Make the panel a dock type window. This is my personal preference. It does
> >   take away some configurability.
> > - Make panel a normal window and use window state ABOVE for always on top.
> >   This will possibly make more people happy.
> > 
> > Other opinions?
> > 
> > 	Jasper

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