Brian, FYI, running recent (yesterday) CVS HEAD panel displays this warning: ** (xfce4-panel:2087): CRITICAL **: file desktop-menu-stub.c: line 112 (xfce_desktop_menu_stub_cleanup_all): assertion `menu_gmod != NULL' failed Cheers, -- - Olivier Fourdan - fourdan at xfce.org - http://www.xfce.org -