right-click close-window kills no more

[Ric]

Hi:

Thanks for the further explanation. -Figured something like that must have
happened. :(

How about a configure option:

--with-middle_click_kill   

to eliminate the left, rt top and side buttons altogether and so that the
people that think this is an okay thing to have can compile the xfwm4 to use
it?  

The configure default for the feature can of course be 'no', i.e.,
--without-<button>_click_kill   so it requires a conscious decision on the part
of the packager/builder.


--- Olivier Fourdan <fourdan at xfce.org> wrote:
> Ric,
> 
> Feature freeze doesn't mean that you can't remove features before
> release because you find that feature dangerous.
> 
> Why dangerous? Because the right-click on close acted like an XKill; The
> application had almost no chance to recover, not even ask the user for
> unsaved data. It was killed, that's it. I did kill the MCS all together
> by moving the mouse on my cluttered desk (the mouse hit another keyboard
> and the right mouse button got pressed, and the pointer was just on the
> "close" button of mcs!)
> 
> Cheers,
> Olivier. 
> 
> On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 02:16, Ric wrote:
> > Hi:
> > 
> > I was going to chirp-in on this before when it got removed but thought it
> was
> > not a good time then. SO, I will now.
> > 
> > --- Olivier Fourdan <fourdan at xfce.org> wrote:
> > > Hi Jan,
> > > 
> > > Hehehe, the right-click = kill has been removed because it was too
> > > dangerous IMO.
> > 
> > When this got removed during feature freeze, I tried to figure out why. 
> The
> > only thing I could think that made any sense was that a mouse glitch over
> the
> > 'max/min' button that actually hit the close button would cause a problem(a
> big
> > problem if it is an editor and the work has not been properly saved...).  
> > --? Some other reason(s) it is "dangerous" feature?
> > 
> > In any event, it was a very nice feature to bypass the hunt&kill(hunt for
> > xkill, run it and use it).  One of those features that makes XFce
> *special*,
> > ithink, and greatly distinguishes it from the MS windows nag screens that I
> > loathe.
> > 
> > 
> > > You still can use xkill, or even bind xkill to a key shortcut
> > > combination.
> > 
> > bind xkill to mouse-rt(or middle)-clk-hover-over-the-close-button would be
> > better. ;)
> > I like the middle-click more as it is a bit harder to do "accidently". Or
> maybe
> > making it a lt & rt buttons simultaneous click would resolve the
> 'dangereous'
> > problem?
> > 
> > Perhaps you could at least make this optional, please?
> > 
> > To be honest, I do/did not use it often as most aps are better behaved
> these
> > days but it sure was handy for the errant ones.  
> > I would use it more if it could kill _just_ that one window w/out killing
> the
> > parent process too.  I suppose that is too hard to do...
> > 
> > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Olivier.
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 19:02, Jan Eidtmann wrote:
> > > > hello Olivier,
> > > > 
> > > > my apps keep crashing ... it was ok if there was this feature called
> > > > "right-click on close-window to kill"! please enable it again!
> > > > 
> > > > one other small thing: i'd like an option to disable "cycle from last
> to
> > > > first desktop".
> > > > 
> > > > thx for this delicious piece of software!!!! (to all devs)
> > 
> > ditto (and ditto)
> > 
> > 
> > > > cmak
> > > -- 
> > > Olivier Fourdan - fourdan at xfce.org
> > 
> > 
> > =====


=====
Have A Great Day!

Ric
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