An understanding of options

[prophet]

Oliver,

Thanks for the link.  Very good reading.  Im almost done reading Joel's 
book at his website.. lol.

There are definately alot of good points and concepts.  
Thanks,
Prophet

On 2003.07.15 16:25, Olivier Fourdan wrote:
> To all, worth reading, for those who didn't know it already:
> 
> http://www106.pair.com/rhp/free-software-ui.html
> 
> (Havoc Pennington's view on a good UI - also includes preference
> options)
> 
> Cheers,
> Olivier.
> 
> On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 22:32, Jasper Huijsmans wrote:
> > Oh, and providing a good use case for why it is important to have
> the
> > option will help a lot. So the taskbar show delay is a good one,
> > although perhaps the solution is just to make the delay a little
> longer
> > (IMO the taskbar should not be hidden at all, but that's another
> > matter). The one about mouse buttons I'm not so sure of. I'm not
> saying
> > it won't happen though.
> >
> > 	Jasper
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:21:54 +0200
> > Jasper Huijsmans <jasper at moongroup.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Nice post, thanks.
> > >
> > > You should know that it is a bit of a tactic as well.
> > >
> > > Most requests for options are either something that doesn't work
> right
> > > and the user asks for an option to change it because (s)he is to
> kind
> > > to tell us to fix the bloody thing, or it is something he was used
> to
> > > from another environment.
> > >
> > > Well, saying no at first gives the user time to get used to our
> > > version. If the problem is really big, complains will keep coming
> and
> > > we know we should probably do something about it.
> > >
> > > Even then we should first consider if we shouldn't be using
> another
> > > default config if everyone else does something and we are not.
> > >
> > > That is part of the reason. The other one is that now we are
> trying to
> > > get a release out, so we will be least reponsive to requests. The
> best
> > > you can hope for now is 'we will look at it after 4.0'.
> > >
> > > So, make sure you remind us after we have released and you will
> have a
> > > bigger chance of getting a positive answer for your request.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > 	Jasper
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:55:54 -0600
> > > prophet <prophet at sphere-x.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > So, I have noticed that there certain things that would be nice
> if
> > > > they had on option to allow the user certian configurations,
> > > > however, they always seemed to be denied when asked. I
> understand
> > > > that having to many options can be a real pain in @$$, but
> > > > somethings just need to have them.  I love xfce so far.. but
> giving
> > > > the user some control/options to set it his/her way would be
> very
> > > > nice.  :-)
> > > >
> > > > For example, the menus on the desktop.  It would be extremely
> nice
> > > > to select which mouse button brings up what window.
> > > > Reason being is coming from so many other WM's I feel it is very
> 
> > > > natural to have my desktop menu on the right mouse button, the
> > > > middle for my workspace tasklist and my left button does
> nothing.  I
> > > > have noticed that many users have come in and asked how this can
> be
> > > > changed many times and feel this should be a necessity to xfce.
> > > >
> > > > Having a pause on when showing the hidden taskbar instead of it
> > > > being so immediate.  I like having it at the top hidden till I
> need
> > > > it, but evertime I go to close a window or go the apps menu I
> get to
> > > > close and it pops up right away on top of my windows and its
> > > > annoying as heck.
> > > >
> > > > I can also think of a few other options.. like having the users
> > > > default text editor open up your xfdesktop's menu, or setting of
> the
> > > > xfwm's default keys (or making of a new one) instead of
> searching
> > > > thru one's file system to do it, and etc.
> > > >
> > > > I hope I didn't stir up any bad vibes.. I know that certian
> things
> > > > can be a touchy subject.. I'm just curious.. (I know it killed
> the
> > > > cat) :)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Prophet
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