An understanding of options

Olivier Fourdan fourdan at xfce.org
Wed Jul 16 00:03:16 CEST 2003


FYI, the taskbar was lacking show/hide timeouts.

I've now added timeouts with values similar to those of the main panel
(and I know, we are in feature freeze, see this a a usability bug fix
:P).

Cheers,
Olivier.

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 23:26, prophet wrote:
> Ackk.. don't take the hiding part away from the taskbar.
> 
> That would really bite. :(
> 
> Prophet
> 
> 
> On 2003.07.15 14:32, Jasper Huijsmans wrote:
> > Oh, and providing a good use case for why it is important to have the
> > option will help a lot. So the taskbar show delay is a good one,
> > although perhaps the solution is just to make the delay a little
> > longer
> > (IMO the taskbar should not be hidden at all, but that's another
> > matter). The one about mouse buttons I'm not so sure of. I'm not
> > saying
> > it won't happen though.
> > 
> > 	Jasper
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:21:54 +0200
> > Jasper Huijsmans <jasper at moongroup.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Nice post, thanks.
> > >
> > > You should know that it is a bit of a tactic as well.
> > >
> > > Most requests for options are either something that doesn't work
> > right
> > > and the user asks for an option to change it because (s)he is to
> > kind
> > > to tell us to fix the bloody thing, or it is something he was used
> > to
> > > from another environment.
> > >
> > > Well, saying no at first gives the user time to get used to our
> > > version. If the problem is really big, complains will keep coming
> > and
> > > we know we should probably do something about it.
> > >
> > > Even then we should first consider if we shouldn't be using another
> > > default config if everyone else does something and we are not.
> > >
> > > That is part of the reason. The other one is that now we are trying
> > to
> > > get a release out, so we will be least reponsive to requests. The
> > best
> > > you can hope for now is 'we will look at it after 4.0'.
> > >
> > > So, make sure you remind us after we have released and you will have
> > a
> > > bigger chance of getting a positive answer for your request.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > 	Jasper
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:55:54 -0600
> > > prophet <prophet at sphere-x.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > So, I have noticed that there certain things that would be nice if
> > > > they had on option to allow the user certian configurations,
> > > > however, they always seemed to be denied when asked. I understand
> > > > that having to many options can be a real pain in @$$, but
> > > > somethings just need to have them.  I love xfce so far.. but
> > giving
> > > > the user some control/options to set it his/her way would be very
> > > > nice.  :-)
> > > >
> > > > For example, the menus on the desktop.  It would be extremely nice
> > > > to select which mouse button brings up what window.
> > > > Reason being is coming from so many other WM's I feel it is very
> > > > natural to have my desktop menu on the right mouse button, the
> > > > middle for my workspace tasklist and my left button does nothing.
> > I
> > > > have noticed that many users have come in and asked how this can
> > be
> > > > changed many times and feel this should be a necessity to xfce.
> > > >
> > > > Having a pause on when showing the hidden taskbar instead of it
> > > > being so immediate.  I like having it at the top hidden till I
> > need
> > > > it, but evertime I go to close a window or go the apps menu I get
> > to
> > > > close and it pops up right away on top of my windows and its
> > > > annoying as heck.
> > > >
> > > > I can also think of a few other options.. like having the users
> > > > default text editor open up your xfdesktop's menu, or setting of
> > the
> > > > xfwm's default keys (or making of a new one) instead of searching
> > > > thru one's file system to do it, and etc.
> > > >
> > > > I hope I didn't stir up any bad vibes.. I know that certian things
> > > > can be a touchy subject.. I'm just curious.. (I know it killed the
> > > > cat) :)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Prophet
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