On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 06:36:34 -0500 (EST) Landy Roman <landy at despiertapr.com> wrote: > why does it tell me running without session manager > Well, you are, aren't you? A session manager, like gnome-session or xsm, restores apps from a previous X session on startup and manages logout of the X session. Note is says 'message', not warning or error. Jasper